immigration

[grannylady]

Illegals create a society and jobs in America for themselves.

It is all about supply and demand. 20 million illegals need food, clothing, cars, housing, medical facilities, jails, prisons, courts and polices and gang units, schools and teachers, social services, etc. The businesses that produce these things need to produce more for the illegals and jobs are created for them. Americans are not using more products and need illegals to fill jobs and do not need to produce for Americans. Beside creating jobs for themselves they are taking jobs from American citizens, especially Black Americans. Illegals benefit themselves and corporations by making them richer. Corporations benefit themselves and government by paying more taxes. Corporate America runs the government. The economy is good for corporations and not for Americans who are struggling. This result in great for corporations and government and the Americans people get screwed by lowering of their wages and their taxes goes to finance illegals needs and presence in this country. Illegals being low wage earners pay very little in taxes and most get the earn income tax break or pay no taxes. No illegals will not be sent back home because of anchor babies and if they are not babies and 16 years old they purposely have babies to secure their stay in America. This law has to be changed or no form of immigration reform will work. If not changed the borders will mean nothing. Pence, want to crate a “Ellis Island” in a joke. He say if the illegals leave the country, fill out papers and come back home in America it is not amnesty. Duh. Americans are not that stupid. Let them go home apply and wait their turn like everyone else. Send them home one by one with their babies (babies that were born to illegals at a cost to hospitals and American citizens) over a period of time. Maybe years. That is how they came and the economy they created will gradually disappear within society. American citizens do not want illegals immigration but “legal” immigration. God bless Hazelton, Pa and Sheriff Arpaio of Phoenix, AZ and all the others that hear the cry of the American people.

[Jameison]

"Yes, and you and a handful of others know exactly what's right for America. Screw the polls, we really don't care what Americans think about it (unless they agree with us). /S"

Me and the vast majority of Republican voters who have let their congressmen know that they are adamantly against ANY amnesty for illegals Mexicans invaders.
That's why more and more states, cities, counties are passing tough anti-illegal immigrant laws.
They are not passing those laws because their constituents are screaming for more illegals to be allowed into their cities/counties/states to come screw things up.
They are passing those laws because of a groundswell of anger from fed-up voters. There is even a post here about a RATS controlled state congress that was forced to vote in anti-illegal immigrant laws
That the American people speaking right there.
Toy see, unlike you, they have to answer to the people, at the real polls in November, and they are not deaf.

[MACVSOG68]

Bottom line: Funding was stopped for a wall by The Senate. And your crack "Did the 1986 bill have strong border security?" will bring the same answer, the Senate is not including a strong border security this time either. It's 1986 redux.

That's the purpose of a conference. So if that's the case then, why even bother with a House bill?

[MACVSOG68]

Hearings first, then deep studying of all the traps for American taxpayers in the Senate Bill, then conference if we feel the Senate people are ready to dump their obnoxious Bill for the House version. If the Senate won't listen to reason, there will be no bill.

Afraid that's not what negotiating means. It means having your no discussion items, and doing some horse trading. In the end, both sides win something. Some here don't really want the Republicans to win, they want the Democrats to loose.

[Jameison]

" Some here don't really want the Republicans to win"


Republicans will win by listening to their constituents that voted to put them in power, and killing the Senate Bill.
As for the RATS, heaven knows what they stand for, apart from they hate Bush, and voted to stop The House censure of the The Slimes leaking national security secrets.
The RATS are set to lose again. Any momentum they had a few months back is gone.


"Afraid that's not what negotiating means. It means having your no discussion items, and doing some horse trading"

There's basically little in the in the Senate Bill worth salvaging.
Even their "wall" has strings attached, and it was added as an afterthought.
The Senate should simply do the right thing and let their version of the Immigration Bill die.