Posted on 07/12/2006 1:52:14 AM PDT by abb
Phone use spans time of team party
In the middle of a Duke lacrosse party where a dancer said she was gang-raped for 30 minutes, a call was placed from her cell phone to a Durham escort service.
The 12:26 a.m. call to the service, Centerfold, lasted one minute, according to a copy of her cell phone bill reviewed by The News & Observer. It is unclear whether the call was a request for another job, a cry for help or something else, or even whether the accuser made the call herself.
But the accuser's phone records add some details to the chronology of the March 13 party, a drunken spring break bash that spawned a national controversy.
Neither prosecutors nor defense lawyers would discuss the phone records Tuesday. Neither the accuser nor a second dancer at the party could be reached, nor could representatives of Centerfold. Police Chief Steve Chalmers was out of town; his spokeswoman said he would not discuss the case.
Three players have been charged with first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping: Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J.; Collin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, N.Y.; and Dave Evans, 23, of Bethesda, Md. Lawyers for the players have proclaimed their clients' innocence and said no rape or sex occurred at the house at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd.
District Attorney Mike Nifong, whose handling of the case has undergone national scrutiny, has been adamant that the woman was raped at the party. Nifong has not given a precise timeline of when he thinks an assault occurred.
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What you are saying makes total sense to me. It offers yet another reason for the misdirection. Now I see what you meant about Chalmers. Perhaps he and his friends (many of us know who they are) could also be involved by laundering money through their businesses and the ethnic agencies
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The other evening she was echoing Lis Wiehl ... can't recall the content.
"What was this about an email to Wonkette?"
Someone sent Wonkette a gossipy report that Finnerty had been in DC one night at a party with other lacrosse players (which would have violated his parole). The judge raised this matter in court, and Finnerty's lawyer said Finnerty wasn't even in DC that weekend.
The judge then said he was not satisfied with that answer, and that he would look further into it--IOW, he effectively called Finnerty's lawyer a liar from the bench.
Wonkette the next day printed an open letter to the judge in its typical commical style, reminding the judge that it does not fact check the email tips it recieves. (You could send them an email saying you had spotted the judge dancing the mamba at a downtown club with Nifong, and it would reprint the gossip).
That the judge relied upon such a source for a serious question, and then told Finnerty's lawyer that he might be lying about it, is wierd (and probably a lot of other legal
things which I am not familiar with).
That was NOT the mamba, that was the Fox Trot.
No, I was answering where the original source of the description of the cell phone was located.
Okay you should teach them, of course.
The schools, MTV, and our society teaches them their parents don't know what they're talking about.
Just an observation.
Prosecutorial discretion and personal discretion are two entirely different matters. I think Nifong makes far too liberal use of prosecutorial discretion.
And the Judge raised the Wonkette crazy rumor in the middle of the damn trial. The posts here and elsewhere said the Judge made the remark in an accusatory manner also.
Thanks, Maggie. Very interesting. It's too bad Monks didn't get the signatures Cheek did. Most likely the simultaneous signature drives is what caused Monks' effort to fail. In the long run, though, Cheek has a better chance of beating Nifong and that may have been the criteria that the "Anybody but Nifong" crowd was looking at, and wisely so. I sure hope Cheek goes for it and wins. He seems like a rational, functioning being, at least at first glance.
The GOP shoots themselves in the foot every chance they get. Politically speaking, the GOP are a bunch of dumbshitz.
Agree 100%, and very well said.
Cheek had a better organization or staff. It looks like the Campaign staff wanted it more than Cheek did.
Sure. People involved in those things typically have a bunch of little enterprises and relatives they lauinder the sums through, and they do it rather amateurishly out of laziness and lack of sophistication. They can be caught rather easily if somebody would just look. Part of the reason they're amateurs and lazy is because they don't think anyone will ever look and mostly that's right.
That is truly outrageous. How Stalinesque can things get in this case? Somebody SHOULD post an observation that they saw this judge boffing a minor in the back seat of his car and see how the effing bastard likes it.
I don't know what, if anything, would be available for appeal in a misdemeanor case, but whatever is possible should be undertaken on the grounds that such an outburst from the judge is extremely prejudicial.
This incident is a big red flag to me that there were likely other unfair decisions made by the judge.
Collin's probation agreement also says that he is either to be a full time student or work full time. Ha! How and where?
The Gov. having put him in office, Nifong no longer answers to the Gov. or the NC AG nor anyone else. Remember this foolishness I got from the AG's office
IN NORTH CAROLINA, DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ARE INDEPENDENT, CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF THEIR DISTRICT, AND NOT A PART OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. IN ADDITION, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE DOES NOT HAVE SUPERVISORY AUTHORITY OVER DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.
The entire rest of the the state, in fact the entire country, can hate him and want him out, but as long as Durham loves him he is in.
North Carolina DA's are as powerful as they come, because they control the Docket and thus have control over the Judge that hears the case.
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