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Evolution can occur quickly and change how populations interact [Lab demonstration]
Cornell University ^ | 03 July 2006 | Susan Lang

Posted on 07/10/2006 11:21:37 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

Biologists generally accept that evolutionary change can take from decades to millennia, while ecological change can occur over mere days or seasons. However, a new Cornell study shows that evolution and ecology can operate on the same time scale.

When evolution occurs so quickly, the researchers conclude, it can change how populations of various species interact. Ecologists need to consider such evolutionary dynamics in their studies because evolution could affect populations being studied. This insight is critical to predicting the recovery time needed for threatened populations or for predicting disease dynamics, says Justin Meyer '04, who conducted the study as an undergraduate student with Cornell ecologists Stephen Ellner, Nelson Hairston and colleagues.

To observe ecological and evolutionary changes together, the researchers monitored the ecological fluctuations in a model predator-prey laboratory system: a microscopic organism called a rotifer that eats a single-celled algae.

Meyer developed a method to track genetic changes, and the researchers found that as the prey population fluctuated, the algae "evolved" from a type that grows quickly to a type that resists being eaten. The frequency of the algal-genotype changes in response to rotifer population flux clearly demonstrated the synchronicity of ecological and evolutionary time.

The study is published in the July 11 issue of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.


TOPICS: Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: anothercrevothread; crevolist; enoughalready; pavlovian; pingtheusualsuspects
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
It won't work, of course. You know it, I know it, and she knows it -- but hey, don't let a nice story and a thesis premise get in the way of logic.

I disagree. I am confident you would evolve more rapidly growing algae by selective pressure on a monoclonal culture.

So why don't you try it?

101 posted on 07/10/2006 2:37:30 PM PDT by DanDenDar
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To: MineralMan

"I'll tell you what happened to Lot and his daughters after Sodom and Gommorah"

That is another puzzling story. Lot, his wife and daughters are the only righteous ones in the whole two "towns". Lot's wife gets turned into a pillar of salt. Why? She looked back. Ok, but when the angels come to the house and the neighbors start wanting to do the hokey pokey with them, Lot tells them to take his daughters, and "do with them what is right in your eyes." What a Dad. It must not upset the daughters too much because they get him drunk and each has their way with their Dad, having children from the encounter. Then, in second Peter, Lot is called "righteous". HUH? And don't forget Lot's poor wife gets turned into a giant salt shaker just for looking. Wow. No, not Wow, Just Dang.


102 posted on 07/10/2006 2:45:45 PM PDT by SaveUS
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To: ImaGraftedBranch

No, I'm asking if evolution is not possible, what is your opinion of how everything came to be and over what time period?


103 posted on 07/10/2006 2:47:44 PM PDT by SaveUS
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To: RobRoy
It is what happened to them after they were created.

You're funny!

104 posted on 07/10/2006 2:48:54 PM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: HayekRocks
Criminy, lighten up man. I am being facetious. Is there some rule that to have an evolutionist jene you have to make room by throwing out your humor jene.

No, that's not true, and Mineralman is proof.

BTW, before you respond, I spelled "geen" on purpose.

Whoops! Did it again! I know I shouldn't have dropped out of school in the 8th grade ;)
105 posted on 07/10/2006 3:01:09 PM PDT by RobRoy (The Internet is doing to Evolution what it did to Dan Rather. Information is power.)
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To: RobRoy
Jeez, not THIS spam again.

New entry in Creatish to English dictionary:

SPAM: Relevant facts and/or detailed scientific research.

106 posted on 07/10/2006 3:01:47 PM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

It certainly does not prove or even demonstrate anything about evolution.


107 posted on 07/10/2006 3:08:11 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Stultis

>.SPAM: Relevant facts and/or detailed scientific research.<

Yeah, most spammers here and at DU see their stuff that way.


108 posted on 07/10/2006 3:08:14 PM PDT by RobRoy (The Internet is doing to Evolution what it did to Dan Rather. Information is power.)
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To: bvw

>>It certainly does not prove or even demonstrate anything about evolution.<<

That really IS the bottom line here, isn't it.

Thanks for bringing us back on topic. :)


109 posted on 07/10/2006 3:09:32 PM PDT by RobRoy (The Internet is doing to Evolution what it did to Dan Rather. Information is power.)
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110 posted on 07/10/2006 3:11:45 PM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
My conjecture is that the resistant algae existed in the population, and only came to the fore when it became obvious that the resistant ones were the only ones still undergoing mitosis (the rest were eaten, of course).

That is evolution

It won't work, of course. You know it, I know it, and she knows it -- but hey, don't let a nice story and a thesis premise get in the way of logic.

Why won't it work? Evolution of resistance from non-resistant bacteria works, why not the other way round?

111 posted on 07/10/2006 3:15:26 PM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: PatrickHenry

At best, this might be termed "natural selection", which is only a fraction of evolution.


112 posted on 07/10/2006 3:18:43 PM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: dread78645

I really dread saying this, but "algae" is plural. :(


113 posted on 07/10/2006 3:32:53 PM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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Science is Spam Placemarker


114 posted on 07/10/2006 3:34:13 PM PDT by ml1954 (NOT the BANNED disruptive troll who was seen frequently on CREVO threads.)
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To: inpajamas

In the beginning there was the Great Microbe in the Sky. From him and his arose all that squeal today and will infest the universe tomorrow.


115 posted on 07/10/2006 3:35:27 PM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: bvw

"It certainly does not prove or even demonstrate anything about evolution."

Nothing proves things in science but this does demonstrate a part of evolutionary theory.


116 posted on 07/10/2006 3:37:49 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
My conjecture is that the resistant algae existed in the population, and only came to the fore when it became obvious that the resistant ones were the only ones still undergoing mitosis (the rest were eaten, of course).

Of course that doesn't explain how resistance evolves in colonies starting from a single cell.

117 posted on 07/10/2006 3:38:05 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: CherylBower

Cheryl. Haven't seen you around here much. Please think about this: resistance and tolerance are two completely different things. While we may eventually tolerate drugs so that they become ineffective, no genetic change has led to that tolerance and you do not pass it on to your offspring.


118 posted on 07/10/2006 3:39:18 PM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: furball4paws

"In the beginning there was the Great Microbe in the Sky."

It was a microbe unparalleled in all of the universes. A single cell with a mitochondria to die for. It said, go forth, and multiply. And the microbe saw that it was good...


119 posted on 07/10/2006 3:59:03 PM PDT by SaveUS
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Shades of Optimus Prime!


120 posted on 07/10/2006 4:23:03 PM PDT by bvw
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