Kansas City customs port considered Mexican soil? [UNFREAKIN' REAL ALERT]

A Mexican customs facility planned for Kansas City's inland port may have to be considered the sovereign soil of Mexico as part of an effort to lure officials in that country into cooperating with the Missouri development project.

Despite adamant denials by Kansas City Area Development Council officials, WND has obtained emails and other documents from top executives with the KCSmartPort project that suggest such a facility would by necessity be considered Mexican territory – despite its presence in the heartland of the U.S.

The documents were obtained with the assistance of Joyce Mucci, the founder of the Mid-America Immigration Reform Coalition, under the provisions of the Missouri Sunshine Law from the City of Kansas City, Mo., and from the Missouri Department of Economic Development.

The documents reveal a two-year campaign initiated in 2004 and managed by top SmartPort officials to win Mexico's agreement to establish the Mexican customs facility within the Kansas City "inland port." Kansas City SmartPort launched a concerted effort to advance the idea, holding numerous meetings with Mexican government officials in Mexico and in Washington to push the Mexican port idea in concert. The effort involved Missouri elected officials, including members of the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate.

"Kansas City, Mo., is leasing the site to Kansas City SmartPort," Tasha Hammes of the development council wrote to WND last month. "It will NOT be leased to any Mexican government agency or to be sovereign territory of Mexico."

Yet, an email written June 21, 2004, by Chris Gutierrez, the president of the KC SmartPort, stated that the Mexican customs office space "would need to be designated as Mexican sovereign territory and meet certain requirements."

Even more recently, an email dated March 10 of this year was sent by Gutierrez to a long list of recipients that left no doubt that KC SmartPort has not yet received federal government approval to move forward with the Mexican customs facility. Gutierrez informed the email recipients that the processing a critical form, designated "C-175," needs approval by the U.S. Customs and Border Protection before the form is passed to the State Department for final approval. The processing and approval of the C-175 application is holding up the final approval of the Mexican customs facility.

In the same memo, Gutierrez reported on a recent meeting in Washington: "Both sides (U.S. and Mexican officials) met several weeks ago and the 'document' or as the U.S. refers to it the 'C-175' is near completion. This document is the basis for the procedural, regulatory, jurisdictional, etc. for the project. It defines what will happen and how and what laws, etc. allow this to happen. Both sides have put a lot of effort into this document."

Gutierrez appeared concerned that the intensive lobbying done by KC SmartPort could be a wasted effort if the final U.S. government approvals were not completed before Mexico elected a new president this week.

"The process for the document is for U.S. Customs to present the document to the acting Commissioner and officials with the Dept of Homeland Security," he wrote. "This will happen in March. The document will then be reviewed by the U.S. State Dept who has been consulted on the document all along so they are aware of it. State will make the recommendation on the diplomatic status of the Mexican officials and the documents fit with existing agreements, accords or treaties. Mexico will wait for this recommendation and then get the sign off of their Foreign Ministry (Secretary [Luis Ernesto] Derbez and Under Secretary [Geronimo] Gutierrez are well versed on the project and support it). The hope of both sides is that this will be completed before the Mexican presidential elections in July."

Gutierrez's March 10 email ended by expressing a hope that discussion of the Mexican customs facility issue could be kept from the public, obviously concerned that press scrutiny might end up producing an adverse public reaction that could destroy the project. Gutierrez specifically proposes a low-profile strategy designed to keep the KC SmartPort and the Mexican customs facility out of public view.

"The one negative that was conveyed to us was the problems and pressure the media attention has created for both sides," he wrote. "They want us to stop promoting the facility to the press. We let them know that we have never issued a proactive press release on this and that the media attention started when Commissioner (Robert) Bonner was in KC and met with Rick Alm. The official direction moving forward is that we can respond to the media with a standard response that I will send out on Monday and refer all other inquiries to U.S. Customs. I will get the name from them to refer media calls."

Robert C. Bonner is the commissioner of CBP within the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. Rick Alm is a reporter for the Kansas City Star.

This alarmist POS has already been posted .And it didn't deserve the space the first time. What's the big deal? This sort of arrangement is as common as tomato soup. And you note that NOWHERE does Corsi say that the land will become Mexican soverign territory min law, only that it will be treated as such - and what he does not say is that such treatment will be only for some limited commercial purposes. This is not a soverignity giveaway as the innuendo suggests. I am certain that around the world there are numerous examples in free trade zones where other nations territory is treated as US territory for exactly the same commerce-friendly reasons. Lighten up. And Corsi should be ashamed of himself for this kind of noxious stirring up trouble where non exists. I hardly know how to react to such bizarre fanatsy. You are close to clinical paranoia. This is mainly an EXPORT facility, to facilitate the export of American products to Mexico by pre-clearing them. Loosen up. Go to school. Read a book. Get an education. Make something of yourself. Then you might be able to start making sense. I had a lot of respect for Jerome Corsi, especially after his work with the Swifties, but this latest stuff is pure crap. We don't want to be inextricably tied to a third world crap hole despite how often you and your ilk tell us we do. Suit yourself. But you have no business interfering in the livlihoods of others with more sense than you. There are a lot of people making money manufacturing and exporting to Mexico, and this KC facility (as well as improved highways) will greatly increase Mexican trade, benefiting hundreds of thousands of hardworking Americans. Yeah, I read that too. More paranoid Corsi crap. My agenda is common sense, and calling out liars and distorters. Nothing more. Hogswill. You have NO facts or evidence to support the notion that this KC facility will comprimise national security or sovereignity, in any way whatsoever. What you're selling is pure hogswill. I hardly know how to react to such bizarre fanatsy(kittymyrib's). You are close to clinical paranoia Welcome to the rants of a very small but very vocal minority on FR. Their heroes are pat buchanan and tom tancredo, two other clinical paranoids the liberal MSM gives much airtime to, so that they can smear all conservatives in general Ohio is a third world crap hole now? Funny, I hadn't noticed. LOL, mua, all you stated was where bananas are grown, and biker there thinks bananas grow in Ohio. Uh biker what you smoking this morning? The banana peel of your morning breakfast? Come on biker show us a banana farm in Ohio. You may have to smoke a couple of more banana peels, to come up with the answer to that one. We post articles and facts while you name call on every article. Real intellectual crowd you hang with. LOL! Those in glass houses should not stones, CC. Had failed to notice Tancredo being paranoic at all ~ or even politically aligned with Buchanan Uh the Team America Pac, that spent $50,000 to try to unseat 100% ACU conservative Chris Cannon, was founded by tom tancredo and current matriarch of the buchanan political family, bay buchanan. Did you hear that Bush is suddenly willing to compromise by allowing a border enforcement first approach and trying to phase in the rest of the amnesty lovers package later? Yep it's called the Mike Pence plan. Sorry but tommy tancredo ain't going to get any credit on this one. Oh well tom tancredo can always go back to what he does best, stab conservatives in the back. Let's see, you said I'm a morning bananna and that people like me come from third world crap holes but I'm from Ohio. Logically, I draw the conclusion that you're calling Ohio a third world crap hole OK, I'm done debating. I'll have to wait till your banana peel smoking has worn off. It isn't Corsi's facts that are wrong. I have no reason to challenge a single one of them. It's his breathless conclusion that something sinister is going on that I take offense at. Fact: we are right next door to a 60 million person and growing market. Fact: As a country we need to export to balance our insatiable appetite for imports Fact: to succeed as an exporter we need to minimize our overhead costs and primary among these is warehousing and transport Why does Corsi see very reasonable, time tested, common, ordinary, widespread practices as something evil, underhanded, sinister or dangerous? Frankly, I can't imagine, unless he is intentionally pumping some kind of agenda. You seem to buy into what he's selling. Maybe you can explain it to me, but if you try, I'd appreciate it is you would stick to facts, too. What excactly is it that you and Corsi are so exercised about. That we actually want to export to Mexico? Or that we import from Mexico? Or what? I'm going to say it once again. There is no one-world, universal soverignity, open borders agenda at work here. This is just trying to make exporting a bit more efficient so more people can have jobs. Trying to make it more than that can only be done at the expense of the truth, i.e. by lying. Horsepuckey. If you are talking about me then you head is squarely put up where the sun don't shine. I am an American sovereignity defender to the death. But I'm not a dumbass that doesn't know the difference betrween sovereignety and a free trade zone or a port terminal operation. I assume that virtually all grown ups can. LoL. But they just keep trying. Those who believe this crap may well be nuts. But such beliefs are common to those who think the World Nut Daily is a credible source of information. But, but, but what about the Pan American Highway? Hasn't it led to disasters unimagined? Llamas walking into the US? The banana crop in Ohio must be huge. Nice delusions there. Are they natural or artificially induced. You know I am taking a lot of heat on this thread, but there are at least a few others that can see how worked up some folks have gotten over what is really nothing at all. Take you. You seem to think that this facility in Kansas City, of all places, is intended to facilitate the import of "chinese crap" via Mexico. Well, You don't want Chinese crap, don't buy it then. That's freedom for you. But that's not really my point. My point is that this KC facility is being proposed to make if easier for Mexicans to Buy "American crap". This is primarily an EXPORT facility. That's what pre-clearance is all about. Think about it. There is no need for a Mexican customs facility in Kansas City to facilitate import of Mexican good into the US. That's the function of US CUSTOMS, Einstein. This Mexican Customs facility is to facilitate our own exports to Mexico. US Customs will set up in Mexico, not in Kansas City, to pre-clear Mexican cargo into the US. This entire thread is powered by bad gas. They just go from thread to thread. And all by Corsi. All of them. I was just on another thread. Well, when the debunking started happening, the usual suspects bugged out. I haven't checked, but I'm sure they're here. I used to subscribe to Human Events but dropped them when they started spending too much time attacking the President. They are horning in on the NY Times business. What American crap are the Mexicans buying? I myself have probably answered your question a dozen times over the past two years. Do you actually forget, or simply pretend to be ignorant? "Please refute with facts" Corsi would be a more convincing kook if he had the facts. As I pointed out to you on the other thread, Corsi is not very well informed about the corridors. Likewise, he is not very well informed on inland ports. While he rants about the KC Port, he has no clue that there are other ports, San Antonio, Alliance Texas, and Winnipeg. There are others, but these three(plus KC) are part of the North American Inlands Ports Network. While he rants about NASCO, he doesn't have a clue that NAIPN is part of NASCO. If Corsi wants to really agitate the conspiracy kooks, he needs to tie Ross Perot(Alliance Texas) into the conspiracy. Its pathetic. This alarmist POS has already been posted .And it didn't deserve the space the first time. What's the big deal? This sort of arrangement is as common as tomato soup. And you note that NOWHERE does Corsi say that the land will become Mexican soverign territory min law, only that it will be treated as such - and what he does not say is that such treatment will be only for some limited commercial purposes. This is not a soverignity giveaway as the innuendo suggests. I am certain that around the world there are numerous examples in free trade zones where other nations territory is treated as US territory for exactly the same commerce-friendly reasons. Lighten up. And Corsi should be ashamed of himself for this kind of noxious stirring up trouble where non exists. I hardly know how to react to such bizarre fanatsy. You are close to clinical paranoia. This is mainly an EXPORT facility, to facilitate the export of American products to Mexico by pre-clearing them. Loosen up. Go to school. Read a book. Get an education. Make something of yourself. Then you might be able to start making sense. I had a lot of respect for Jerome Corsi, especially after his work with the Swifties, but this latest stuff is pure crap. We don't want to be inextricably tied to a third world crap hole despite how often you and your ilk tell us we do. Suit yourself. But you have no business interfering in the livlihoods of others with more sense than you. There are a lot of people making money manufacturing and exporting to Mexico, and this KC facility (as well as improved highways) will greatly increase Mexican trade, benefiting hundreds of thousands of hardworking Americans. Yeah, I read that too. More paranoid Corsi crap. My agenda is common sense, and calling out liars and distorters. Nothing more. Hogswill. You have NO facts or evidence to support the notion that this KC facility will comprimise national security or sovereignity, in any way whatsoever. What you're selling is pure hogswill. I hardly know how to react to such bizarre fanatsy(kittymyrib's). You are close to clinical paranoia Welcome to the rants of a very small but very vocal minority on FR. Their heroes are pat buchanan and tom tancredo, two other clinical paranoids the liberal MSM gives much airtime to, so that they can smear all conservatives in general Ohio is a third world crap hole now? Funny, I hadn't noticed. LOL, mua, all you stated was where bananas are grown, and biker there thinks bananas grow in Ohio. Uh biker what you smoking this morning? The banana peel of your morning breakfast? Come on biker show us a banana farm in Ohio. You may have to smoke a couple of more banana peels, to come up with the answer to that one. We post articles and facts while you name call on every article. Real intellectual crowd you hang with. LOL! Those in glass houses should not stones, CC. Had failed to notice Tancredo being paranoic at all ~ or even politically aligned with Buchanan Uh the Team America Pac, that spent $50,000 to try to unseat 100% ACU conservative Chris Cannon, was founded by tom tancredo and current matriarch of the buchanan political family, bay buchanan. Did you hear that Bush is suddenly willing to compromise by allowing a border enforcement first approach and trying to phase in the rest of the amnesty lovers package later? Yep it's called the Mike Pence plan. Sorry but tommy tancredo ain't going to get any credit on this one. Oh well tom tancredo can always go back to what he does best, stab conservatives in the back. Let's see, you said I'm a morning bananna and that people like me come from third world crap holes but I'm from Ohio. Logically, I draw the conclusion that you're calling Ohio a third world crap hole OK, I'm done debating. I'll have to wait till your banana peel smoking has worn off. It isn't Corsi's facts that are wrong. I have no reason to challenge a single one of them. It's his breathless conclusion that something sinister is going on that I take offense at. Fact: we are right next door to a 60 million person and growing market. Fact: As a country we need to export to balance our insatiable appetite for imports Fact: to succeed as an exporter we need to minimize our overhead costs and primary among these is warehousing and transport Why does Corsi see very reasonable, time tested, common, ordinary, widespread practices as something evil, underhanded, sinister or dangerous? Frankly, I can't imagine, unless he is intentionally pumping some kind of agenda. You seem to buy into what he's selling. Maybe you can explain it to me, but if you try, I'd appreciate it is you would stick to facts, too. What excactly is it that you and Corsi are so exercised about. That we actually want to export to Mexico? Or that we import from Mexico? Or what? I'm going to say it once again. There is no one-world, universal soverignity, open borders agenda at work here. This is just trying to make exporting a bit more efficient so more people can have jobs. Trying to make it more than that can only be done at the expense of the truth, i.e. by lying. Horsepuckey. If you are talking about me then you head is squarely put up where the sun don't shine. I am an American sovereignity defender to the death. But I'm not a dumbass that doesn't know the difference betrween sovereignety and a free trade zone or a port terminal operation. I assume that virtually all grown ups can. LoL. But they just keep trying. Those who believe this crap may well be nuts. But such beliefs are common to those who think the World Nut Daily is a credible source of information. But, but, but what about the Pan American Highway? Hasn't it led to disasters unimagined? Llamas walking into the US? The banana crop in Ohio must be huge. Nice delusions there. Are they natural or artificially induced. You know I am taking a lot of heat on this thread, but there are at least a few others that can see how worked up some folks have gotten over what is really nothing at all. Take you. You seem to think that this facility in Kansas City, of all places, is intended to facilitate the import of "chinese crap" via Mexico. Well, You don't want Chinese crap, don't buy it then. That's freedom for you. But that's not really my point. My point is that this KC facility is being proposed to make if easier for Mexicans to Buy "American crap". This is primarily an EXPORT facility. That's what pre-clearance is all about. Think about it. There is no need for a Mexican customs facility in Kansas City to facilitate import of Mexican good into the US. That's the function of US CUSTOMS, Einstein. This Mexican Customs facility is to facilitate our own exports to Mexico. US Customs will set up in Mexico, not in Kansas City, to pre-clear Mexican cargo into the US. This entire thread is powered by bad gas. They just go from thread to thread. And all by Corsi. All of them. I was just on another thread. Well, when the debunking started happening, the usual suspects bugged out. I haven't checked, but I'm sure they're here. I used to subscribe to Human Events but dropped them when they started spending too much time attacking the President. They are horning in on the NY Times business. What American crap are the Mexicans buying? I myself have probably answered your question a dozen times over the past two years. Do you actually forget, or simply pretend to be ignorant? "Please refute with facts" Corsi would be a more convincing kook if he had the facts. As I pointed out to you on the other thread, Corsi is not very well informed about the corridors. Likewise, he is not very well informed on inland ports. While he rants about the KC Port, he has no clue that there are other ports, San Antonio, Alliance Texas, and Winnipeg. There are others, but these three(plus KC) are part of the North American Inlands Ports Network. While he rants about NASCO, he doesn't have a clue that NAIPN is part of NASCO. If Corsi wants to really agitate the conspiracy kooks, he needs to tie Ross Perot(Alliance Texas) into the conspiracy. Its pathetic. "TinfoilOn, apply directly to the forehead. TinfoilOn, apply directly to the forehead. TinfoilOn, apply directly to the forehead. TinfoilOn!"

The bottom line is, this is what you're supporting folks.
How more disgraceful can it get...

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