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Foreign Control of U.S. Interstates Encouraged By Feds
American Chronicle ^ | June 29, 2006 | Diane M. Grassi

Posted on 07/03/2006 5:37:03 AM PDT by A. Pole

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To: Alberta's Child
Our crowded highways are "fixed" every year. They do some fraction of the lanes while traffic continues on the other lanes. If you study traffic engineering, you'll recognize that the maximum traffic flow occurs around 30 mph. So what happens is that all commutes just take longer, whether one finds a parallel route to by-pass the construction, time shifts travel, or just sucks it up and goes the "regular" way. Everybody still seems to get to work.

So, there is a way to "fix" (actually more accurately termed, reconstruct) a crowded freeway (by which I assume that you mean a limited access, divided highway - note that the Ohio and PA TPs have been "fixed" during the last few years and they are not freeways and can be quite crowded at least at some points on some days). I'm beginning to think you need to get out more.

141 posted on 07/03/2006 12:58:21 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Alberta's Child

One can also cut off subsidized water (think LA) or zone for less density so people just can't be so crowded together like a bunch of Rats.


142 posted on 07/03/2006 1:00:12 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Paladin2

That wasn't what I meant by "fix." I meant "fix" in the sense that the traffic congestion is "fixed." There's simply no way to address traffic congestion without providing a financial disincentive for people to travel during peak periods -- which is exactly how electric and gas companies address problems related to excess usage of power during peak periods.


143 posted on 07/03/2006 1:01:13 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child
Many times adding a lane significantly improves congestion, at least for a few years. All one has to do is plan for the space to put lanes and build them in advance of the demand (typically not done due to liomited resources).

There are plenty of places where there was traffic congestion prior to building the interstates that have been successfully relieved by an interstate built in the 1960's. The congestion is still gone 40 years later while the number of lanes hasen't been increased. Think of Iowa, North and South Dakota, Montana, Nebraska. Especially river crossings.

144 posted on 07/03/2006 1:05:45 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Montana works great.


145 posted on 07/03/2006 1:06:16 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Paladin2
Take a look at one of the annual reports prepared by an organization like the Texas Transportation Institute that details the most congested segments of roadway in the nation. You could widen every one of those roadways to 40 lanes per direction next week, and within 5 years they would be operating at the same level of congestion as they are experiencing today.

It's simply the nature of how things work. It's a principle in economics called "The Tragedy of the Commons."

Haven't you ever wondered why littering along a highway warrents a special statute in most states? It's because many people who wouldn't even think of dropping a single cigarette butt in their own back yard think nothing of littering in a place that "nobody" (or "everybody") owns.

146 posted on 07/03/2006 1:10:41 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Paladin2

Montana works great because its population and employment have been stable or declining for years. The highway system was over-designed in the first place (since it was financed primarily by taxpayers in other states), and with very little change in population it still works just fine.


147 posted on 07/03/2006 1:14:16 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Paladin2

How is cutting off subsidized water any different than cutting off subsidized roads?


148 posted on 07/03/2006 1:16:30 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: petitfour

$3.00 per axle


149 posted on 07/03/2006 1:36:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm trying to think but nothing happens)
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To: Alberta's Child

And here I was led to believe that all that excess capacity would be soaked up in no time flat.


150 posted on 07/03/2006 1:37:40 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

It is the UN who is running the whole North America Union stuff.


151 posted on 07/03/2006 3:09:37 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Alberta's Child
There's no way to fix a crowded freeway,

Really? How about getting the globalists out of our government who are 'densifying' our cities per Agenda 21? Release their control of the housing market, while you're at it, give back the land they've confiscated for the Nature Conservancy. There's plenty of room.
152 posted on 07/03/2006 3:47:08 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Alberta's Child
It's a principle in economics called "The Tragedy of the Commons."

No it isn't.
153 posted on 07/03/2006 4:19:57 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Clintonfatigued
If low wages, control of everything by the privlidged few, and lack of respect for individual property rights were the makings of a prosperous nation, Mexico would be the world's economic powerhouse.

Good point and they might even get worse with the Marxist guy if he wins. Then again, the Marxist could be a blessing in disguise if it would get us to close up our borders along with torpedoing NAFTA and CAFTA. That is, if we wise up. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree, but it would take something that earth shaking to wake up some people to what we have been saying. Until then, all we here is, I'll let Dr. Seuss explain it. B-)

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154 posted on 07/03/2006 5:52:05 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Wings Over Pittsburgh Airshow - July 8th & 9th)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque
Why do you lowercase Mexico? (you did so in another comment, also).

There are many illegal immigrants from Mexico, but there are also many legal ones, too. Furthermore, except for the waves of immigration, Mexico is practically as much of an ally of the United States as Canada (which could be not much or a lot, depending on your opinion).

The country is Mexico, just as this country is the United States and another neighbor country is Canada.

There's no point in you being needlessly rude and offensive.

155 posted on 07/03/2006 7:56:12 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Tokra

How much did you say it costs to cross the Mackinac Bridge?


156 posted on 07/03/2006 8:02:36 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Carpe Sharpei!)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

Although it could be that you have another reason for lowercasing the country, but the most logical one is that you intended to be rude. if that was not the case, then sorry for comment 155.


157 posted on 07/03/2006 8:04:25 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque
This is nuts. And it goes right along with the NAFTA, CAFTA crap and the globalism path CFR has nudged us into. The NAFTA Superhighway will be one more rust hole in the armor. Soon enough, when Canada, the US and mexico are *one* (think EU), our national soverignty will be a distant memory, as will The US Constitution.

(((sigh)))

How can you just give up and say "sigh?" I guess there's enough rebel in me to want to fight for America. My family has buried too many who fought in past wars, and I'm just not ready to let them have died in vain.

We've fought wars before, but never against our own government. Domestic enemies are going to take control if we don't stop them. If they get total control, we will kiss our Internet news groups good bye because they are a threat to them. McCain/Feingold have already proved how easy that will be. Right now, it isn't so bad, but there's coming a day, when they're going to want everything we have. They've already gone after our homes (Imminent Domain). THAT was a gift from the USSC! When there is tyranny in Congress, the White House and the USSC, we are in serious trouble.

It's time that America's Patriots gather to formulate a plan. Let them know we're aware of what they're doing and we're not going to take it any more. We could probably get the Minutemen, the NRA, GOA, and probably many other groups would join them. I would think individual Americans would come out in mass. IF we lose it now, it's over. They would love it if we would all just sigh and give up. We've just got to cowboy up and kick their a$$es! Our Founders whipped another country for our independence! We all need to think about that tomorrow.

158 posted on 07/03/2006 8:28:29 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (NEVER ARGUE WITH IDIOTS!!! THEY*LL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL AND BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE!!!!)
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To: NRA2BFree
It's time that America's Patriots gather to formulate a plan.

Agreed.Please include me in any freepmail or other bumplists.
159 posted on 07/03/2006 8:58:19 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: A. Pole
Foreign Control of U.S. Interstates Encouraged By Feds

Bush is clearly running a Going-Out-Of-Business sale.

His prices are INSANE!!!

160 posted on 07/03/2006 9:00:37 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999 !!!)
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