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To: Mr. Silverback
WRONG AGAIN!

one of the things that is (in a way) funniest about the "gubmint apruvd pubic screwls currickulim" is that they tell the children (in their especial care) the MYTHS out of the REVISIONIST, leftist/socialist, SELF-serving, arrogant, SELF-righteous, lunatic fringe of "poison ivy league academia", KNOWING that the MYTHS are FALSE.

just one of those KNOWING LIES is that the merciless Kansas CRIMINALS that preyed on the (mostly peaceful) farmers & townspeople on MO & IT were "wunnerful, wunnerful"and/or "patriotic"& the people from MO & IT (who retaliated against the raiding by the Kansas criminals) were "renegades & ruffians".

as a direct descendant of PVT William J (Little Thunder) Freeman, late of the 4th MO Partisan Rangers, i find that you have perpetuated those KNOWING, REVISIONIST LIES, whether you KNOW that what you stated was false, or not.

the cavalry raid on Lawrence was a PUNITIVE EXPEDITION (allowable under the Law of War)in retaliation for the raids on towns in MO by the "garbage in semi-human form" that styled themselves "Jayhawkers", "Kansas volunteer cavalry" & "regulators". ALL of those KS groups made war on BOTH sides of the KS-MO-IT border for "fun, plunder & profit".(btw,the notorious murderer, rapist, robber, arsonist & jayhawker commander, "Doc" Jennison missed out on his richly deserved death, at the hands of the Lawrence raiders, because he was raiding UNIONIST farms in KANSAS on that date!)

frankly, you are defending FILTH & the WAR CRIMES that that FILTH committed.

free dixie,sw

561 posted on 06/17/2006 7:59:32 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
repeating DAMNyankee lies does not make those lies magically become truth.

You have yet to link to any historical source that backs up your theories. Repeating some insular family view of a conflict over and over again doesn't magically make your views true, either. Back it up or go home.

just one of those KNOWING LIES is that the merciless Kansas CRIMINALS that preyed on the (mostly peaceful) farmers & townspeople on MO & IT were "wunnerful, wunnerful"and/or "patriotic"& the people from MO & IT (who retaliated against the raiding by the Kansas criminals) were "renegades & ruffians".

Wrong. If you think that's the way the schools are teaching that subject, then you are really, really, really ignorant. Granted, my views on the situation that I've shared are based on research I've done starting over a decade after I left the public schools but you might as well be saying that they teach that the Germans won WWII--that's how far away your portrayal of what I was taught is from what I was actually taught.

Besides, I never said that the Southerners did all the bad stuff, I just pointed out that they committed election fraud and fired the first shots. Then right after that I acknowledged that a major abolitionist figure was a despicable serial killer. But you just prattle on about "damnyankee propaganda.

as a direct descendant of PVT William J (Little Thunder) Freeman, late of the 4th MO Partisan Rangers, i find that you have perpetuated those KNOWING, REVISIONIST LIES, whether you KNOW that what you stated was false, or not.

Was your ancestor one of the folks who crossed over into another state to cast illegal votes in their elections? Was he one of the guys who sacked Lawrence? If so, is that a point of pride for you?

just out of curiosity, do YOU believe the NONSENSE you're posting about the war in the Trans-Mississippi West???

Just out of curiousity, do you have anything other than self-serving family legends to back up your assertions? Might be nice to see some.

Let the hero born of woman crush the serpent with His heel!
Glory, glory hallelujah!

For Joshua Chamberlain and John M. Schofield, Mr. Silverback

581 posted on 06/17/2006 12:01:26 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Try Jesus--If you don't like Him, satan will always take you back.)
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To: stand watie
the cavalry raid on Lawrence was a PUNITIVE EXPEDITION (allowable under the Law of War)in retaliation for the raids on towns in MO

Only we're not talking about Quantrill's 1863 mass murder. We're talking about the 1856 "Sacking of Lawrence." You might want to inform yourself on the subject. Look up the Wakarusa War while you're at it.

a direct descendant of PVT William J (Little Thunder) Freeman, late of the 4th MO Partisan Rangers

As usual, any time you give something like a verifiable detail, it falls apart under the lightest scrutiny; There's apparently no such unit as the "4th MO PARTISAN RANGERS" Here's a list of the actual Missouri partisan ranger and guerilla units:

MISSOURI PARTISAN RANGERS

Coleman's Missouri Battalion Partisan Rangers (Coleman's Missouri Regiment Cavalry)(NA)
Lawther's Missouri Regiment Partisan Rangers (NA)( see also 10th Missouri Cavalry)
Quantrill's Missouri Company (guerrilla command) (NA)
Capt. Woodson's Missouri Company, Cavalry (NA)
1st NE Missouri Cavalry
2nd NE Missouri Cavalry
10th Missouri Cavalry
Wood's Missouri Cavalry
Tracy's Missouri Cavalry1st
Missouri Battalion Partisan Rangers
Marmaduke's Missouri Company, (The Macon Rangers
McDonald's Missouri Company, (Ralls County Rangers
Schnable's Missouri Cavalry (NA)
Pool's Missouri Partisan Rangers
Colonel Adair's Missouri Partisan Rangers
Colonel Holt's Missouri Partisan Rangers
Colonel Jackson's Missouri Partisan Rangers
Col. Jeffers' Partisan Rangers
Capt. Johnson's Missouri Partisan Ranger Company
Major Livingston's Missouri Scouts
Lt. Col. Maddox's Missouri Partisan Rangers


MISSOURI GUERRILLA UNITS

William T. (Bloody Bill) Anderson's Guerrilla Command
Baker's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Alf Bolin's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Boone's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Bowles' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Downey's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Colonel Elliot's Missouri Partisan Rangers
Gabbert's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Goode's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hadley's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hart's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hildebrand's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Doc Himes' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hinson's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hutchins' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hutchinson's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Jackman's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Jeans' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Rector Johnson' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hyde Johnson's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Kane's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Keisengro's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Kendrick's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Joe Kirk's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Maddox's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Marchbank's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Marmaduke's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Mathews' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Capt. Nevins' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Osburn's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Overson's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Parcel's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Major Pool's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Potter's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Price's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Purcell's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Rafter's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Reid's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Rucker's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Ruff's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Small's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Smith's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Stacy's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Steward's Missouri Guerrilla Command
(Coon) Thornton's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Woodson Thornton's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Todd's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Turk's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Vanzoot's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Vaughn's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Watson's Missouri Guerrilla Command
West's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hinch West's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Colonel White's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Yeates' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Zeigler's Missouri Guerrilla Command

613 posted on 06/18/2006 6:02:20 PM PDT by Heyworth
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