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To: stand watie
repeating DAMNyankee lies does not make those lies magically become truth.

You have yet to link to any historical source that backs up your theories. Repeating some insular family view of a conflict over and over again doesn't magically make your views true, either. Back it up or go home.

just one of those KNOWING LIES is that the merciless Kansas CRIMINALS that preyed on the (mostly peaceful) farmers & townspeople on MO & IT were "wunnerful, wunnerful"and/or "patriotic"& the people from MO & IT (who retaliated against the raiding by the Kansas criminals) were "renegades & ruffians".

Wrong. If you think that's the way the schools are teaching that subject, then you are really, really, really ignorant. Granted, my views on the situation that I've shared are based on research I've done starting over a decade after I left the public schools but you might as well be saying that they teach that the Germans won WWII--that's how far away your portrayal of what I was taught is from what I was actually taught.

Besides, I never said that the Southerners did all the bad stuff, I just pointed out that they committed election fraud and fired the first shots. Then right after that I acknowledged that a major abolitionist figure was a despicable serial killer. But you just prattle on about "damnyankee propaganda.

as a direct descendant of PVT William J (Little Thunder) Freeman, late of the 4th MO Partisan Rangers, i find that you have perpetuated those KNOWING, REVISIONIST LIES, whether you KNOW that what you stated was false, or not.

Was your ancestor one of the folks who crossed over into another state to cast illegal votes in their elections? Was he one of the guys who sacked Lawrence? If so, is that a point of pride for you?

just out of curiosity, do YOU believe the NONSENSE you're posting about the war in the Trans-Mississippi West???

Just out of curiousity, do you have anything other than self-serving family legends to back up your assertions? Might be nice to see some.

Let the hero born of woman crush the serpent with His heel!
Glory, glory hallelujah!

For Joshua Chamberlain and John M. Schofield, Mr. Silverback

581 posted on 06/17/2006 12:01:26 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Try Jesus--If you don't like Him, satan will always take you back.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
actually, "Little Thunder" never voted at all except in tribal elections. in those far ago days, AmerIndians were NOT US citizens, despite the fact that it was/IS our country too.

and YES he participated in the cavalry raid on the KS filth, who had for years gleefully robbed/raped/assaulted/burned the property & persons of Indians with GLEE. he told my great-uncle that it was the "best days work i ever did".

FACE IT, you are defending GARBAGE, when you try to excuse the renegades/criminals & FILTH from KS. every one of the men on the "kill lists" was wanted for common crimes in KS/MO/IT. EVERY ONE! (MANY of the KS filth on the "kill lists" were wanted for crimes, committed against "unionists".)

fwiw, the depredations against peaceful & mostly "dirt-poor" Indians was RACISM & war for FUN & PROFIT, pure & simple.

the TRUTH about the "border wars" is WELL-documented in our tribal records, so it is NOT "family legend". rather, it is simply the UNcomfortable TRUTH, which DY apologists would prefer to ignore/deny.

free dixie,sw

596 posted on 06/18/2006 10:28:45 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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