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To: stand watie
the cavalry raid on Lawrence was a PUNITIVE EXPEDITION (allowable under the Law of War)in retaliation for the raids on towns in MO

Only we're not talking about Quantrill's 1863 mass murder. We're talking about the 1856 "Sacking of Lawrence." You might want to inform yourself on the subject. Look up the Wakarusa War while you're at it.

a direct descendant of PVT William J (Little Thunder) Freeman, late of the 4th MO Partisan Rangers

As usual, any time you give something like a verifiable detail, it falls apart under the lightest scrutiny; There's apparently no such unit as the "4th MO PARTISAN RANGERS" Here's a list of the actual Missouri partisan ranger and guerilla units:

MISSOURI PARTISAN RANGERS

Coleman's Missouri Battalion Partisan Rangers (Coleman's Missouri Regiment Cavalry)(NA)
Lawther's Missouri Regiment Partisan Rangers (NA)( see also 10th Missouri Cavalry)
Quantrill's Missouri Company (guerrilla command) (NA)
Capt. Woodson's Missouri Company, Cavalry (NA)
1st NE Missouri Cavalry
2nd NE Missouri Cavalry
10th Missouri Cavalry
Wood's Missouri Cavalry
Tracy's Missouri Cavalry1st
Missouri Battalion Partisan Rangers
Marmaduke's Missouri Company, (The Macon Rangers
McDonald's Missouri Company, (Ralls County Rangers
Schnable's Missouri Cavalry (NA)
Pool's Missouri Partisan Rangers
Colonel Adair's Missouri Partisan Rangers
Colonel Holt's Missouri Partisan Rangers
Colonel Jackson's Missouri Partisan Rangers
Col. Jeffers' Partisan Rangers
Capt. Johnson's Missouri Partisan Ranger Company
Major Livingston's Missouri Scouts
Lt. Col. Maddox's Missouri Partisan Rangers


MISSOURI GUERRILLA UNITS

William T. (Bloody Bill) Anderson's Guerrilla Command
Baker's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Alf Bolin's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Boone's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Bowles' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Downey's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Colonel Elliot's Missouri Partisan Rangers
Gabbert's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Goode's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hadley's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hart's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hildebrand's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Doc Himes' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hinson's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hutchins' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hutchinson's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Jackman's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Jeans' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Rector Johnson' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hyde Johnson's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Kane's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Keisengro's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Kendrick's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Joe Kirk's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Maddox's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Marchbank's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Marmaduke's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Mathews' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Capt. Nevins' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Osburn's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Overson's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Parcel's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Major Pool's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Potter's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Price's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Purcell's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Rafter's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Reid's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Rucker's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Ruff's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Small's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Smith's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Stacy's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Steward's Missouri Guerrilla Command
(Coon) Thornton's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Woodson Thornton's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Todd's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Turk's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Vanzoot's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Vaughn's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Watson's Missouri Guerrilla Command
West's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hinch West's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Colonel White's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Yeates' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Zeigler's Missouri Guerrilla Command

613 posted on 06/18/2006 6:02:20 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: Heyworth; stand watie; Non-Sequitur; x
As usual, any time you give something like a verifiable detail, it falls apart under the lightest scrutiny; There's apparently no such unit as the "4th MO PARTISAN RANGERS" Here's a list of the actual Missouri partisan ranger and guerilla units:

SW, I call on you to explain this descrepancy.

First, I can also find no evidence of such a unit. I searched on every permutation I could think of, and the only references to it I can find on the entire bleedin' internet is in posts BY YOU on FR.

Second, the only Will Freeman listed on the roster of partisan rangers is a man who fought under Quantrill. The closest Quantrill's unit comes to being called the 4th MO Partisan Rangers is when Quantrill identified himself under a false name to Union troops and claimed to be an officer in the 4th Confederate Cav.

It seems either you are not being truthful, or those family traditions handed down to you are completely unreliable and your citation of them as the sole evidence to back up your view of history becomes even more silly. Got an alternate explanation? And are you still going to claim to be a Civil War expert if you can't get a unit citation right?

He has loosed the fearful lightning of his terrible swift sword
Glory, glory hallelujah

For Joshua Chamberlain and the Schofields,
Mr. Silverback

651 posted on 06/19/2006 10:17:02 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (My other car is a Herkimer Battle Jitney.)
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