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Confederate flags on space station draw ire
MSNBC ^ | 6/13/06 | James Oberg

Posted on 06/14/2006 5:58:12 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom

Confederate flags flown aboard the international space station — and seemingly signed by a NASA astronaut — showed up last week on the online auction site eBay.

The original eBay listing indicated that the 4-by-6-inch flags were brought aboard the space station by Russian cosmonaut Salizhan Sharipov in 2004, and an accompanying photo showed a sample flag that seemed to bear Sharipov’s signature as well as that of Leroy Chiao, his NASA colleague on the station. Yet another photo showed several of the rebel flags floating in a space station module.

The item was pulled from the auction on Monday by the seller, Alex Panchenko of USSR-Russian Air-Space Collectibles Inc. in Los Angeles — and on Tuesday, Panchenko told MSNBC.com that he removed the items from sale because he had concluded the flag and the authentication documents were forgeries.

However, Robert Pearlman, editor and founder of CollectSpace, said he believes the flags are authentic.

“The picture taken of the flags aboard the station says a lot,” he said. “It would be difficult to fake, given the style and I couldn't see the motivation to do so.” The “onboard-the-ISS” stamp, added Pearlman, is not known to have been counterfeited anywhere."

The disappearance of the flags followed a round of criticism over the weekend from former space scientist Keith Cowing, publisher of NASA Watch, an independent Web log. He cited the Confederate flags as an example of “bad judgment on the ISS.”

“You'd think that someone on the U.S. side of the ISS program would have expressed some concern about flying a symbol on the ISS that many Americans associate with slavery,” Cowing wrote.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: civilwar; confederateflag; dixie; iss; losers; nasa; neoconfederate; pcpatrol; rebs; rednecksinspaaaaaace; slavestates; z
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To: MissouriConservative
Confucius said: History is written by the victors.

Or was that Braveheart?

941 posted on 06/23/2006 1:44:37 AM PDT by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: Mr. Silverback

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1654189/posts


942 posted on 06/23/2006 2:02:04 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Mr. Silverback
Race relations were bad here in Illinois for a long time.

Not really all that bad. I remember from the History Channels show on the Tri-State Tornado of 1925, a sign in southern Illinois that read "KKK meeting tonight, everybody welcome". 8^)
943 posted on 06/23/2006 4:18:30 AM PDT by smug (Tanstaafl)
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To: smug
I remember from the History Channels show on the Tri-State Tornado of 1925, a sign in southern Illinois that read "KKK meeting tonight, everybody welcome". 8^)

I can remember driving through North Carolina in the mid-70's and seeing a big Klan billboard.

944 posted on 06/23/2006 4:30:03 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Heyworth
It's still a de facto segregated city--blacks on the south and west sides, whites in the southwest, northwest and north.

In all fairness show me a city that isn't de-facto segregated, by income level if nothing else.

What's changed is that since the 1980s the Democratic machine has been better about giving the black community a piece of the patronage action and the black population boom and resulting neighborhood expansion that led to the violent white reaction has eased.

The Chicago Machine brought blacks in through patronage long before the mid-80's. The south side was sending black to congress in the 1940's.

I don't make excuses for the deep-seated racism in Illinois, but do point out that it wasn't so bad that Chicago didn't become the major destination in the black "Great Migration" out of the south.

I'd disagree with that because there was a large migration to Chicago, as well as almost every other Northern city.

945 posted on 06/23/2006 4:35:21 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
I can remember driving through North Carolina in the mid-70's and seeing a big Klan billboard.

I'll bet dollars to donuts those pointy headed little pips weren't as welcoming to everyone.
946 posted on 06/23/2006 5:11:30 AM PDT by smug (Tanstaafl)
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To: smug
I'll bet dollars to donuts those pointy headed little pips weren't as welcoming to everyone.

If I recall correctly it was an invitation to come help fight communism and integration.

947 posted on 06/23/2006 5:15:46 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
there was a large migration to Chicago, as well as almost every other Northern city.

I know you'll correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the reason for this twofold
1. The north was where the jobs were
2. The Flood of 1927
948 posted on 06/23/2006 5:23:08 AM PDT by smug (Tanstaafl)
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To: smug

I'll agree with number 1 but I'm not familiar with number 2. But I believe that the migration actually started in the teens with blacks coming north to work in war industries. One of the earliest race riots in Chicago occured about 1919 or 1920 as an offshoot of the growing black population on the south side.


949 posted on 06/23/2006 5:50:54 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
TRUE!

and LOTS of hateful,terminally ignorant, SELF-righteous, prejudiced idiots, too.

free dixie,sw

950 posted on 06/23/2006 7:34:58 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
YEP. i don't know where the term on the www. came from, but it seems to have "stuck".

free dixie,sw

951 posted on 06/23/2006 7:35:55 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: smug
<...a sign in southern Illinois that read "KKK meeting tonight, everybody welcome"

Yes, and the state that holds the record for the largest Klan membership was Indiana, a state for which there was no star in the Confederate battleflag.

952 posted on 06/23/2006 7:51:58 AM PDT by Texas Mulerider
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To: MissouriConservative
the lunatic fringe of "the DY coven" of REVISIONISTS & "useful idiots" simply HATE dixie, her battle-flags, her memorials to the southern dead & her fine/decent dixie people.

i'd guess only about 10-15% of northerners are DAMNyankees, but that minority are REALLY ignorant, LOUD-mouthed,prejudiced,vengeful,nit-witted & generally brain-dead. they would be some OTHER sort of BIGOT, if they were not so busy HATING dixie, her symbols & our people.

MOST of them are "victums uv duh gubmint pubic scewl kurricuum" & neither "don't know better" OR they don't care that what they have been forcibly "spoon-fed" is mostly evasive, intentionally slanted and/or just plain a LIE.

i'd guess they would swallow sewage & think it "wonderful", if that was ALL they had been fed.

SADLY, sewage is MOST of the diet for them & they will accept nothing else. their minds are CLOSED. i am reminded of the DAMNyankee (thankfully, long gone to DU from FR) who once said to N-C on a WBTS thread that: what you say just can't be true, because it means that my ancestors were not "nice people" & no better than nazis.

free dixie,sw

953 posted on 06/23/2006 7:53:14 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: pollyannaish
i'm curious. are you be BLUE, GRAY or NEUTRAL in your outlook?

again, WELCOME. we look forward to your contributions.

free dixie,sw

954 posted on 06/23/2006 7:56:44 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: TYVets
actually, it was the British historian, Professor Arnold Toynbee.

he said that:

History is FICTION, popularly agreed upon by tyrants & conquerers.

free dixie,sw

955 posted on 06/23/2006 7:59:05 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: pollyannaish

No prob, I wasn't trying to drag you in, I just think people should be warned about liars. If he was on my side, I still would have warned you. Have a great weekend.


956 posted on 06/23/2006 8:03:42 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (My other car is a Herkimer Battle Jitney.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Great article. What's the exact point you're trying to make?


957 posted on 06/23/2006 8:05:29 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (My other car is a Herkimer Battle Jitney.)
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To: smug

Yeah, and the KKK was an enormous power in Maine in the 1920's, though their target up there was Catholics.


958 posted on 06/23/2006 8:07:23 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (My other car is a Herkimer Battle Jitney.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
i would tell her the same thing about allowing herself to "cozy up" to ANY of the arrogant,ignorant,DAMNyankee extremists on FR,too, lest she step in something "unpleasant".

free dixie,sw

959 posted on 06/23/2006 8:08:03 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
would tell her the same thing about allowing herself to "cozy up" to ANY of the arrogant,ignorant,DAMNyankee extremists on FR,too, lest she step in something "unpleasant".

Speaking of hateful,terminally ignorant, SELF-righteous, prejudiced idiots...

960 posted on 06/23/2006 8:10:53 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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