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Confederate flags on space station draw ire
MSNBC ^ | 6/13/06 | James Oberg

Posted on 06/14/2006 5:58:12 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom

Confederate flags flown aboard the international space station — and seemingly signed by a NASA astronaut — showed up last week on the online auction site eBay.

The original eBay listing indicated that the 4-by-6-inch flags were brought aboard the space station by Russian cosmonaut Salizhan Sharipov in 2004, and an accompanying photo showed a sample flag that seemed to bear Sharipov’s signature as well as that of Leroy Chiao, his NASA colleague on the station. Yet another photo showed several of the rebel flags floating in a space station module.

The item was pulled from the auction on Monday by the seller, Alex Panchenko of USSR-Russian Air-Space Collectibles Inc. in Los Angeles — and on Tuesday, Panchenko told MSNBC.com that he removed the items from sale because he had concluded the flag and the authentication documents were forgeries.

However, Robert Pearlman, editor and founder of CollectSpace, said he believes the flags are authentic.

“The picture taken of the flags aboard the station says a lot,” he said. “It would be difficult to fake, given the style and I couldn't see the motivation to do so.” The “onboard-the-ISS” stamp, added Pearlman, is not known to have been counterfeited anywhere."

The disappearance of the flags followed a round of criticism over the weekend from former space scientist Keith Cowing, publisher of NASA Watch, an independent Web log. He cited the Confederate flags as an example of “bad judgment on the ISS.”

“You'd think that someone on the U.S. side of the ISS program would have expressed some concern about flying a symbol on the ISS that many Americans associate with slavery,” Cowing wrote.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: civilwar; confederateflag; dixie; iss; losers; nasa; neoconfederate; pcpatrol; rebs; rednecksinspaaaaaace; slavestates; z
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To: Non-Sequitur

"The questionable behavior you're thinking of must have been his election to Congess in 1862. Prior to that his service had been very distinguished, rising from regimental commander to brigade commander to corps chief-of-staff under Rosecrans."

No. That is not the questionnable behavior being referred to. However, I do recall reading something about him being in Washington, and no one could stand him, so they sent him to the field. But no one could stand him there either, so they sent him back. And, I do not consider General Rosecrans to be the shiniest marble. In my opinion, Rosecrans was a deceitful, little brat, so anyone under his command would be equally deceitful.

Anyway, the first time I came across Garfield's name, was regarding a hanging and a drum-head court martial in June of 1863, in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. Garfield had a hidden-agenda with this one. And, there was so much shuffling and erasing and fudging of documents, that I wouldn't believe Garfield had a shiny career under any circumstances.


741 posted on 06/20/2006 1:40:51 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: Non-Sequitur

Uh...no, I don't think so. You are not answering my question directly. You are going about it in a round about way. And it first must be determined whether I'm to be classified as being off-the-wall. Because if that is so, then this conversation has concluded. And don't go and play around with words because you know exactly what I mean. So, just answer my question and stop pulling the, you jump through several hoops, then I'll talk. Because I won't buy it...


742 posted on 06/20/2006 1:49:12 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: orionblamblam

maybe you o mighty one should read up on the yankee slaves .of course that's not pc.


743 posted on 06/20/2006 1:49:40 PM PDT by old gringo
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To: Non-Sequitur

You said it. Enough is enough....


744 posted on 06/20/2006 1:51:17 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: Mr. Silverback

Fiddle Dee Dee! (snaps open fan and fans furiously)


745 posted on 06/20/2006 1:56:27 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
However, I do recall reading something about him being in Washington, and no one could stand him, so they sent him to the field. But no one could stand him there either, so they sent him back. And, I do not consider General Rosecrans to be the shiniest marble. In my opinion, Rosecrans was a deceitful, little brat, so anyone under his command would be equally deceitful.

Once again your memory must be playing you false. Prior to the war Garfield was a teacher, college president, and state senator. He wasn't in Washington to be hated by anyone. He didn't go to Washington until his first session of Congress in 1863 and he remained there as Congressman and President until his assasination in 1881. I'm surprised that you're so down on him, especially since he was the president of the court martial that convicted Colonel Turchin.

Anyway, the first time I came across Garfield's name, was regarding a hanging and a drum-head court martial in June of 1863, in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. Garfield had a hidden-agenda with this one. And, there was so much shuffling and erasing and fudging of documents, that I wouldn't believe Garfield had a shiny career under any circumstances.

Since Garfield was in Congress in June 1863, and not in the army, hd couldn't have had anything to do with 'a hanging and a drum-head court martial' in Murfeesboro. Unless you are referring to Colonel Turchin's trial the year before.

746 posted on 06/20/2006 1:59:42 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
So, just answer my question and stop pulling the, you jump through several hoops, then I'll talk. Because I won't buy it...

OK, then yes I've seen enough of your posts to come to the opinion that you have a decidedly pro-southron bias. As pronounced as that of the Kennedy boys and Tommy DiLorenzo. You will condemn any and all actions on the part of Lincoln and the Union while ignoring similar or worse actions on the part of the south. Satisfied?

And before you ask I will be the first to state that I have a bias as well towards the Union cause. But I'm honest enough to admit it.

747 posted on 06/20/2006 2:04:32 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Mr. Silverback
sorry, but your UTTER disrespect for me personally & your unrelenting requests for me to go do research that i do NOT have time to do, leave me disappointed in YOU as a person & a FReeper.

actually, i'm NOT the liar here, as most here know.

PITY that you evidently haven't figured out who that is.

free dixie,sw

748 posted on 06/20/2006 2:07:23 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
YEP.

my plumed gray slouch hat is OFF to you again.

free dixie,sw

749 posted on 06/20/2006 2:09:00 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: old gringo

> read up on the yankee slaves

Really? So... what "yankee" states rose up in traitorous rebellion to maintain their slave holding status? Fill me in.


750 posted on 06/20/2006 2:09:40 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

"Since Garfield was in Congress in June 1863, and not in the army, hd couldn't have had anything to do with 'a hanging and a drum-head court martial' in Murfeesboro. Unless you are referring to Colonel Turchin's trial the year before."

THIS will be my last post to you. You are so totally prone to disbelieve anything positive about the South. And further prone to deliberately putting people on the defensive for a very selfish reason.

The court martial business was reasearched, BY MYSELF, and DUH! I know he was in WASHINGTON. DUH! DUH! DUH! BUT DUH! That does not mean, DUH! that one cannot contact him by TELEGRAPH! DUH!

...And, bye...


751 posted on 06/20/2006 2:11:38 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: Mr. Silverback
you know, the more i read of your BILGE, the more i'm beginning to think that you are beyond hope and that your eyes/mind are/is CLOSED to the truth.

if so, i PITY you.

otoh, if/when you figure out that you've been lied to KNOWINGLY & made a FOOL of, you may come to me off-forum & apologize to me. i will NOT ask you to do so on forum, as nobody here deserves that.

free dixie,sw

752 posted on 06/20/2006 2:12:36 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin; Non-Sequitur
...And, bye...

Fiddle Dee Dee!

753 posted on 06/20/2006 2:14:27 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: Non-Sequitur
pardon me, "Mr Minister" but when and on what subject have you EVER posted anything but PROPAGANDA???

i cannot remember a single occasion, but your evasions, 1/2-truths & outright untruths are legendary on FR.

free dixie,sw

754 posted on 06/20/2006 2:15:03 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

Well, hello again. Now I understand the deliberate attempts at sabotage by the propangandized folks. They will degrade, just for the sake of degrading as that is what has been taught to them as the right thing to do. Puts it all in a better light to really see what has happened due to Lincoln and his cohorts...


755 posted on 06/20/2006 2:18:06 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: usmcobra
are you INTENTIONALLY being INSULTING to our tribal traditions/culture, after you have been POLITELY asked NOT to capitalize our hero's WARname???

no skin off my nose, but it certainly reflects BADLY on YOU .

free dixie,sw

756 posted on 06/20/2006 2:18:14 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Non-Sequitur
ALL history books have "agendas". don't you know that OR do you hope that your readers are too naive to know it???

free dixie,sw

757 posted on 06/20/2006 2:19:33 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Non-Sequitur
just as your PRO-DAMNyankee bias is obvious.

free dixie,sw

758 posted on 06/20/2006 2:20:35 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: orionblamblam
which DAMNyankee states kept THEIR slaves, even after Richmond fell????

free dixie,sw

759 posted on 06/20/2006 2:23:16 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
ALL history books have "agendas".

Even the ones that don't exist, like "Yachts Against Subs" and "The Annals of Old Missouri"?

760 posted on 06/20/2006 2:23:37 PM PDT by Heyworth
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