Posted on 06/14/2006 5:58:12 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
Confederate flags flown aboard the international space station — and seemingly signed by a NASA astronaut — showed up last week on the online auction site eBay.
The original eBay listing indicated that the 4-by-6-inch flags were brought aboard the space station by Russian cosmonaut Salizhan Sharipov in 2004, and an accompanying photo showed a sample flag that seemed to bear Sharipov’s signature as well as that of Leroy Chiao, his NASA colleague on the station. Yet another photo showed several of the rebel flags floating in a space station module.
The item was pulled from the auction on Monday by the seller, Alex Panchenko of USSR-Russian Air-Space Collectibles Inc. in Los Angeles — and on Tuesday, Panchenko told MSNBC.com that he removed the items from sale because he had concluded the flag and the authentication documents were forgeries.
However, Robert Pearlman, editor and founder of CollectSpace, said he believes the flags are authentic.
“The picture taken of the flags aboard the station says a lot,” he said. “It would be difficult to fake, given the style and I couldn't see the motivation to do so.” The “onboard-the-ISS” stamp, added Pearlman, is not known to have been counterfeited anywhere."
The disappearance of the flags followed a round of criticism over the weekend from former space scientist Keith Cowing, publisher of NASA Watch, an independent Web log. He cited the Confederate flags as an example of “bad judgment on the ISS.”
“You'd think that someone on the U.S. side of the ISS program would have expressed some concern about flying a symbol on the ISS that many Americans associate with slavery,” Cowing wrote.
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You have yet to link to any historical source that backs up your theories. Repeating some insular family view of a conflict over and over again doesn't magically make your views true, either. Back it up or go home.
just one of those KNOWING LIES is that the merciless Kansas CRIMINALS that preyed on the (mostly peaceful) farmers & townspeople on MO & IT were "wunnerful, wunnerful"and/or "patriotic"& the people from MO & IT (who retaliated against the raiding by the Kansas criminals) were "renegades & ruffians".
Wrong. If you think that's the way the schools are teaching that subject, then you are really, really, really ignorant. Granted, my views on the situation that I've shared are based on research I've done starting over a decade after I left the public schools but you might as well be saying that they teach that the Germans won WWII--that's how far away your portrayal of what I was taught is from what I was actually taught.
Besides, I never said that the Southerners did all the bad stuff, I just pointed out that they committed election fraud and fired the first shots. Then right after that I acknowledged that a major abolitionist figure was a despicable serial killer. But you just prattle on about "damnyankee propaganda.
as a direct descendant of PVT William J (Little Thunder) Freeman, late of the 4th MO Partisan Rangers, i find that you have perpetuated those KNOWING, REVISIONIST LIES, whether you KNOW that what you stated was false, or not.
Was your ancestor one of the folks who crossed over into another state to cast illegal votes in their elections? Was he one of the guys who sacked Lawrence? If so, is that a point of pride for you?
just out of curiosity, do YOU believe the NONSENSE you're posting about the war in the Trans-Mississippi West???
Just out of curiousity, do you have anything other than self-serving family legends to back up your assertions? Might be nice to see some.
Let the hero born of woman crush the serpent with His heel!
Glory, glory hallelujah!
For Joshua Chamberlain and John M. Schofield, Mr. Silverback
Likewise the provisional constitution required a supreme court without such court being established. The district courts defined by the provisional constitution were not a replacement for the supreme court and had no similar provision in the permanent constitution, so their role ended when the provisional constitution did.
No one said the district courts were a "replacement" for the Supreme Court. The provisional constitution is quite clear, though, that the judges of said district courts would comprise the Supreme Court:
Article 3, Section 1.3 of the provisional constitution: (3) The Supreme Court shall be constituted of all the district judges, a majority of whom shall be a quorum, and shall sit at such times and places as the Congress shall appoint.
Thus, the Supreme Court would be automatically established by the appointment of a quorum of district judges. And though Davis apparently did not exercise his constitutional power to appoint Supreme Court justices under the permanent Constitution, Article 6.1 of the permanent Constitution explicity says that any officers appointed under the provisional Constitution shall remain in office until their replacements are named, or the offices are abolished. You might argue that the adoption of the permanent Constitution totally "abolished" the provisional Constitution, but the Confederate Congress apparently was still operating under its judicial mandates as late as May 21, 1861 (two months after the permanent was adopted), since that was the date that the Confederate Congress approved an "Amendment to the Provisional Constitution of the Confederate States," said amendment specifically referencing wording in Article 3 (establishment of judicial districts,etc.) of the provisional constitution.
I've got two of 'em. A small one (13H) for West Texas quail hunting, and a big one (16H) for trail riding. I've got a Tennessee Walker, too, but I prefer the mules. Much more intelligent than horses, and safer to ride. Just my opinion, of course, and no offense meant to the horse owners around here. ;)
Of course many Southerners agreed with Reagan in the 1980s, but they didn't lead the way. Reagan was already there.
Of cours, you guys always have to be the best or the most or the first or the biggest or the only. Why is that?
Article 3, section 1, clause 2 also said that the commission of the judges would expire with the provisional constitution. No such offices were defned in the new constitution, the old constitution expired, the judges did not form a supreme court under the new constitution, such a branch was never established.
...or the offices are abolished.
Which they were.
...but the Confederate Congress apparently was still operating under its judicial mandates as late as May 21, 1861 (two months after the permanent was adopted), since that was the date that the Confederate Congress approved an "Amendment to the Provisional Constitution of the Confederate States," said amendment specifically referencing wording in Article 3 (establishment of judicial districts,etc.) of the provisional constitution.
Was it ever ratified by the states?
So if the war is all the excuse you needed for a big, intrusive, constitution trashing, socialist government then why do you complain about what you claim are the same actions by the Lincoln administration?
They went to Canada because they didn't have to worry about the fugitive slave laws there.
Where did I do this?
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Which he richly deserved.
Fair enough. But a quick check of the National Archives (Records of District Courts of the U.S.) shows lists of records (and their locations) for every Confederate state's district court save South Carolina, whose records were presumably destroyed by the burning of Columbia, and Arkansas, whose capital was occupied relatively early.
An example of what you'll find for each state is this:
21.12.9 Records of the Confederate States District Court for the Southern Division of the District of Georgia Textual Records (in Atlanta): Minute books, 1861-63. Docket books, 1861-64. Case files, 1861-64. Records relating to sequestration and garnishment cases, 1861-67.
So. Does the language of the provisional constitution really abolish the offices, as you claim? Then they must have been officially reestablished at some point. It may be out there somewhere, and I'll cheerfully acknowledge it if it exists, but I can find no reference to any record of any activity that would indicate that any Confederate district court was ever abolished - even for two minutes - and then reestablished.
free dixie,sw
and YES he participated in the cavalry raid on the KS filth, who had for years gleefully robbed/raped/assaulted/burned the property & persons of Indians with GLEE. he told my great-uncle that it was the "best days work i ever did".
FACE IT, you are defending GARBAGE, when you try to excuse the renegades/criminals & FILTH from KS. every one of the men on the "kill lists" was wanted for common crimes in KS/MO/IT. EVERY ONE! (MANY of the KS filth on the "kill lists" were wanted for crimes, committed against "unionists".)
fwiw, the depredations against peaceful & mostly "dirt-poor" Indians was RACISM & war for FUN & PROFIT, pure & simple.
the TRUTH about the "border wars" is WELL-documented in our tribal records, so it is NOT "family legend". rather, it is simply the UNcomfortable TRUTH, which DY apologists would prefer to ignore/deny.
free dixie,sw
Sure. And black is white, east is west, and up is down, too.
i'd give most everything i own (or will own) to have "Molly" back. she was a GOOD one!
fwiw, she frequently "showed her heels" to many a fast horse! (truthfully, i must admit that the famed Native Dancer was one of her ancestors on the dam's side, so running was in her genes!)
free dixie,sw
when did i ever say that we southerners were first/best/most, etc.??? we are just RIGHT on most important issues like FREEDOM & the CURSE of "trendy PC, lefty-ism out of the NE", for example.
MOSTLY, we southrons just want the DYs to "hush, go away & leave us ALONE".
free dixie,sw
face it, N-S the DYs HATED & FEARED Blacks, Jews, AmerIndians & every other group that was not white.
free dixie,sw
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