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Police: Dancer Called Rape Allegation a 'Crock'
abc11tv ^ | 6-8-06 | eyewitness News

Posted on 06/08/2006 2:03:55 PM PDT by Mike Nifong

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To: Mike Nifong

Who is KIm?
Who is crystal?


121 posted on 06/08/2006 4:46:15 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: Mike Nifong
The motion points to a statement from Johnson saying the accuser engaged in sexual activity with at least four different men from March 10 to March 12.

That would be called a whore in my book.

122 posted on 06/08/2006 4:48:04 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Mike Nifong
I am assuming the Flexeril wasn't prescribed. Which explains why Mangum needed to get the heck out of the detox area or wherever the police initially took her. Dollars to donuts there would have been consequences for her testing positive for a substance. I'm surprised she was apparently smart enough to know that claiming rape would immediately reverse the field and make her the victim. Of course, she's had a lot of practice time to find every loophole.
123 posted on 06/08/2006 4:49:16 PM PDT by Carling (It's Danny, Sir)
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To: bert

Kim is the "other" dancer, and Crystal is the alleged victim.


124 posted on 06/08/2006 4:49:58 PM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: bert

Crystal is crying Gang-rape and beating.

Kim Roberts is the 2nd dancer.
A Felon that was wanted the very night of the party


125 posted on 06/08/2006 4:51:50 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Any likeness to persons living or dead is entirely coincidental)
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To: Jezebelle
It sounds like you're describing an investigation. In most parts of the country, the investigation takes place prior to any indictments. Does Nifong have any shame?
126 posted on 06/08/2006 4:53:19 PM PDT by Publius22
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To: Carolinamom
What possible reason does Nifong have for issuing 2 subpoenas for Duke to give him the home addresses

He is hoping one or more of them get arrested this summer on some misdemeanor charge or other and then they will be more vulnerable to pressure.

127 posted on 06/08/2006 4:55:16 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Carling
I'm not even sure that is legal. Besides, based on Roberts public testimony, wouldn't she be impeached as a witness?

It might be legally complicated. Nifong would have to somehow get her original case back before that judge, but he has already done that by arresting her for violating her probation. The trial judge in this case and the trial judge in her prior case would both have to go along with this unless they happen to be the same judge. Then it is a matter of resentencing her in the first case and sentencing her in the Duke case after she pleas.

I have said a couple of times now, that I doubt anyone gets convicted based on this. But it makes Nifong's "case" stronger and might reduce his criminal liability. He could CLAIM both these women said a rape happened so I had to go forward even though I had no physical evidence and the women made conflicting statements.

Nifong, if he has a bit of grey matter, better be trying to keep his own butt out of jail right now. This weak attempt at shoring up the case would be a big step in that direction. Of course Roberts may later turn on him if an independent investigation of this mess ever happens.
128 posted on 06/08/2006 4:58:36 PM PDT by JLS
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To: LWalk18

The judge doesn't have to approve a photo line-up, or any line-up, but he would the search warrant of the property and for the DNA samples taken from the boys.

The question is, did Nifong in some way signal Himan and other DPD investigators that he didn't want full reports that included exculpatory evidence.

The defense's motion granted at the last hearing to order all LE to preseve all notes and records was a master stroke and it clearly indicates that the defense knew or suspected that this or something along these lines had been going on between Nifong and at least Himan. Now, this motion puts Himan on the spot - his butt is on the line - and we'll see if he spills his guts about who told him to omit what and when. The defense should bring misconduct charges against Himan right away and squeeze him. Maybe they have more to develop yet, thouogh.


129 posted on 06/08/2006 5:00:52 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Mike Nifong
Paging Brian Taylor and Travis Magnum - Would you like to revise your statements about that night?

Perhaps Brian Taylor lives in Raleigh (info the N&O article left out). GCM arrives at his place at 9pm, after her "appointment" with the couple in the hotel room, and then they leave at 10:45 to go to Buchanan. Driving from Raliegh would explain her late arrival (not to mention, sexual favors in exchange for such a long distance ride).

130 posted on 06/08/2006 5:03:30 PM PDT by Publius22
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To: JLS

It's too far-fetched, imo, and Roberts is too flaky. Such an agreement would have been struck shortly after her arrest on her warrant, and she would not have made those statements aboout no rape occurring as far as she knows publicly. In more recent weeks, she has said she does think a rape occurred and is sorry she didn't do more to check on Mangum, etc.. There may even be something to that effect in the Vanity Fair article that came out earlier this week. She would not be making such statements if she had a deal with Nifong that you describe. Further, I doubt that Nifong has the authority to waive her repayment of restitution because that is money owed to a private entity, not the government, and is part of a court order.


131 posted on 06/08/2006 5:08:49 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

That's what the "/s" means. (It's shorthand for "sarcasm off.")

Thanks for checking before flaming, I melt easily. ;-D

Pinz


132 posted on 06/08/2006 5:09:58 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Charter Snowflake, Rummy fan)
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To: Mike Nifong

This is, of course, the defense attorney's version, which should be approached with the same amount of suspiciion as the DA's version but this explains why the prosecution has to give *all* evidence to the defense before trial, not just the parts that support their case. These details paint a very different picture than the prosecution's.


133 posted on 06/08/2006 5:11:25 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: Carling
I am assuming the Flexeril wasn't prescribed. Then why would she tell the SANE nurse that she was taking it?
134 posted on 06/08/2006 5:11:27 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: Krodg

She told the doctor one thing, the nurse another, and the Police something else.

We simply cannot believe these people.


135 posted on 06/08/2006 5:15:48 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Any likeness to persons living or dead is entirely coincidental)
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To: Krodg
Then why would she tell the SANE nurse that she was taking it?

Because she was whacked out on Flexeril and booze? That said, I'm not saying this is what happened. I just have to wonder why she would be prescribed a muscle relaxant. With her alleged history, that is.

136 posted on 06/08/2006 5:20:50 PM PDT by Carling (It's Danny, Sir)
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To: Carling

Flexeril isn't considered a recreation drug. She might have a prescription for it. She didn't have to submit to any toxicology or alcohol testing, nor did she even have to mention it when asked about any drugs or alcohol, so she may not have been trying to hide the fact that she took it. There was a bottle of pills found among her things left behind at the lax house.


137 posted on 06/08/2006 5:21:55 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Publius22

None. Zero, zip, nada. He's even more devoid of ethics.


138 posted on 06/08/2006 5:23:11 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle
It sounds to me like the defense has been getting the documents they were seeking directly from DPD.

Do you think the defense is getting them via a subpoena from the court, or are you thinking in terms of a sympathetic individual in the DPD?

139 posted on 06/08/2006 5:23:53 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Jezebelle

I hope you are right. The deal would have had to been made when she was arrested for her probation violation.

But having a corroberating witness that early in the case would certainly limit Nifong's legal liability. Certainly Roberts is a loose cannon and has said conflicting things after she would have had to agree to this deal. But still I wonder if Nifong would dare try this.


140 posted on 06/08/2006 5:24:06 PM PDT by JLS
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