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Visual Tour: 20 Things You Won't Like About Windows Vista
Computerworld ^ | June 01, 2006 | Scot Finnie

Posted on 06/02/2006 9:17:14 PM PDT by Swordmaker

The same thing happened with Windows XP. When Beta 2 arrived, I found myself torn between what was new and good about the operating system, and what was new and bad.

Significant negatives back in 2001 included product activation (which doesn't affect Microsoft volume licensing customers), changes to the network-configuration user interface and the way XP interacted with other versions of Windows on small networks. Was Windows XP truly better than Windows 2000? It was a toss-up in many ways. In the end, I went with the improved app compatibility and user interface improvements of XP. But it wasn't by much.

Well, Microsoft just upped the ante on internal conflict with the release of Vista Beta 2. It boils down to this: The software giant is favoring security and IT controls over end-user productivity. Don't get me wrong, security and IT manageability are very good things. But some of the people actually using the Beta 2 Vista software describe their experience as akin to that of a rat caught in a maze.

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To: Mr. Blonde

why would i need that junk software?


41 posted on 06/02/2006 10:57:51 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Swordmaker
if you click Apple OS on the link i gave you will get this

here

42 posted on 06/02/2006 11:00:41 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon
Kind of odd for them to compare beta software to no-beta don't ya think? maybe he should have compared Vista Beta to Os X beta.

OS X has been out of beta for five years, Echo. Apparently you are not aware of that. It is existing, working technology standard that Vista is not even rising to meet. It is appropriate to compare a "new" product against "existing" products to see if there are improvements. Vista, in the opinion of the author, fails in comparison to the existing and available technology of OS X. It is even more telling when that author is considered an expert in the field of Windows.

43 posted on 06/02/2006 11:01:19 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Echo Talon

Even before I switched to a Mac computer I thought iTunes was the best music player I had used. It was one of the reasons I made the switch.


44 posted on 06/02/2006 11:02:26 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: Swordmaker
some people also think Ferrari's aren't perfect since it still gets flat tires, I know you mac people like the car comparisons.
45 posted on 06/02/2006 11:04:46 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Swordmaker

no duh a beta program is going to fail against a mature one... doesn't take a rocket scientist. I could have told you that. Linux is easily better than Vista right now(its still beta).


46 posted on 06/02/2006 11:07:04 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Mr. Blonde

i'm not big into music although I do play guitar(haven't played in a while though). If im using windows Winamp or media player is fine for me, if im using linux any one of its media players is fine, im not picky. I got some big 'ol Boston Acoustic speakers that can rock the house! :)


47 posted on 06/02/2006 11:10:22 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Swordmaker

Oh, come on. Sure, these things need to go back to MS for refining, but other than that, a beta that's rough around the edges is hardly news, and it's hardly unique. My reaction to this was pretty much "well, what else is new?" I'm quite content to wait for the final product, personally - if it looks good, maybe we'll find a place for it, and if not, we won't. But anyone who's making that call now, based on the state of the beta, is just foolish, IMO.


48 posted on 06/02/2006 11:12:08 PM PDT by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Echo Talon

Your ignorance shows no bounds... did you notice that your vaunted link is ignorant itself? It has split the Apple Market...

Mac OS ......... 4.19%

and

MacIntel ......... 0.23%

Now, add those to Mac OS X components together :

Mac OS X ....... 4.42%

Now, plug THAT figure into your graph and you will see a consistent although slight INCREASE in Mac Market share over the period of transition from PowerPC architecture to Intel architecture.

In fact, the first time you posted that chart the Macintel percentage was 0.19% and only a week or so later it is 0.23%, a respectable increase for a new product.

Gee... did you notice that sudden drop of 0.14% in the "Mac OS" share from December's 4.35% to January's 4.21%? What happened in January? Oh, Apple released the first MacIntel, the Mac Mini... who's first appearance on that list was in January with an initial market share of about 0.17% with ONE model on the market...

Do you think that the website that maintains that chart DELIBERATELY split the Mac OS X market in January to further distort the Mac OS X record? Naw... that would be FUD.

And, Echo, it is STILL ten (10) times more than your beloved LINUX's "market" share...


49 posted on 06/02/2006 11:17:05 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Echo Talon
MacIntel market share... your source:

Gee, that looks like an interesting growth curve, don't you think???

50 posted on 06/02/2006 11:20:14 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Swordmaker

wow! huge incease! they are breaking it all down, they gave all the data on the chart, if they lumped ALL OSX togeather you would NOT know the macintel marketshare.


51 posted on 06/02/2006 11:21:42 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Swordmaker
Gee, that looks like an interesting growth curve, don't you think???

doesn't take much to make a graph move when you're talking about 0.23% especially since its a new product :\

52 posted on 06/02/2006 11:23:26 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Swordmaker
Do you think that the website that maintains that chart DELIBERATELY split the Mac OS X market in January to further distort the Mac OS X record? Naw... that would be FUD.

They also split WinXP, Win98, WinME, WinNT ETC...

53 posted on 06/02/2006 11:25:44 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon
some people also think Ferrari's aren't perfect since it still gets flat tires, I know you mac people like the car comparisons.

It is an appropriate comparison if the Ferrari beta test models comes with flat mismatched tires and two of the wheels have been mounted sideways... or the steering wheel, the acceleration pedal and the brake pedal are installed in front of different seats.. one of which faces backwards.

54 posted on 06/02/2006 11:26:55 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Echo Talon
if they lumped ALL OSX togeather you would NOT know the macintel marketshare.

That's a valid point... but then the OS X market share should be inclusive of both...

55 posted on 06/02/2006 11:29:32 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Swordmaker

they are NOT the exactly the same thing... if they were Photoshop CS2 would work on the intelmacs...


56 posted on 06/02/2006 11:31:05 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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They also split WinXP, Win98, WinME, WinNT ETC...

OS X.4 is OS X.4 on either platform.

If you want to breakdown OSes by processor, then WinXP should be WinXP Intel and WinXP AMD... etc.

Then consistency is apparently not their strong point.

57 posted on 06/02/2006 11:33:11 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Swordmaker

my dad worked at Ford, they find all kinds of things wrong during testing(beta), thats the point to testing, run it hard make it fail then address the failure/cause of failure(pretty much the idea)


58 posted on 06/02/2006 11:34:14 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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if they were Photoshop CS2 would work on the intelmacs...

It works on MacIntels and MacPPCs.

59 posted on 06/02/2006 11:34:16 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Echo Talon
my dad worked at Ford, they find all kinds of things wrong during testing(beta), thats the point to testing, run it hard make it fail then address the failure/cause of failure(pretty much the idea)

How many years has Microsoft been testing Longhorn/Vista to make it fail... and addressing the cause of failures... and still release a Beta like this? Six? Seven?

If Ford were to do there testing and correction the way MS seems to have, the Ford 500 would be due to be released sometime in late 2009.

60 posted on 06/02/2006 11:37:39 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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