Posted on 05/25/2006 5:04:51 AM PDT by abb
I was wondering how the SBI could miss that. So let's assume they didn't. Why, at that time, didn't Nifong go out and get Crystal to ID the three guys it could be? Why wait for the second DNA?
"Why don't they just wear clown suits and arrive 9 in a little car?"
Didn't you see the shots of the New Black Pampers? They had their clown suits on. These people are all part of the same racists group. I am sure the Pampers are all card carrying members of the NAALCP.
What will it take to Dis-bar Nifong for judicial misconduct?
NiFong has already said that there have been many rape convictions without evidence of DNA and I'm sure that is true.
What he hasn't said is what we should be looking at: "No one has ever been convicted of rape if they weren't in the room with the victim at the time of the rape".
When the two boys left after calling for a cab, they became the alibi for the third. The third boy doesn't even need an alibi. There were three boys with all their hands on her at the same time according to Crystal. No one was talking on the phone.
NiFong and the "biased" media have been avoiding the time element like the plague. Fortunately, we have become privy to some of the data but not all of it. The time frame will be so narrow, that the physical possibility of rape becomes impossible.
Looks like Crystal gave the DA a freebie!!
So why did she even admit to 3 possibilities. Something isn't quite right.
Q: What will it take to Dis-bar Nifong for judicial misconduct?
A: Nifong (See Court TV thread at http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php?s=337fd28bd2897d80486b3fe967914d1c&threadid=265413)
Yesterday, Boardom, saddleburr and others joined together to savor some of Nifong's legendary proclaimations.
Please add any more that you've got. Perhaps later we can create a vocab list or cheat sheet of Nifongese so we can decifer future comments.
"I still think that the racial slurs that were involved are relevant to show the mind-set, I guess, that was involved in this particular attack, and obviously, to make what is already an extremely reprehensible attack even more reprehensible." - Mike Nifong
"I'm trying to be as honest and as straightforward as I can without jeopardizing the case, without being unfair to any person," - MN
"I would not be surprised if condoms were used," he said.
He said he could jeopardize the case by rushing forward with incomplete evidence. "I don't want to arrest the wrong person in any case," Nifong said.
"By next week, we'll know precisely who was involved." - MN
"I'm confident a sexual assault took place in that house," Nifong said, echoing a statement he made earlier on in the investigation. "If I didn't believe her, then I would not be basing any of my decisions on what she said."
Last month, defense attorneys publicly stated that DNA samples taken from 46 Duke lacrosse athletes cleared the players, but Nifong hinted on Wednesday that there may be more to
the DNA tests than defense attorneys are sharing.
"My guess is that there are many questions that many people are asking that they would not be asking if they saw the results," Nifong said. WRAL has asked defense attorneys to share information on the DNA results, but they have declined the request. Nifong cannot release the DNA results because doing so would be against state policy, he said.
"They're not things that the defense releases unless they unquestionably support their positions," Nifong said. "So, the fact that they're making statements about what the reports are saying, and not actually showing the reports, should in and of itself raise some red flags."- MF
"The reason that I took this case is because this case says something about Durham that I'm not going to let be said," Nifong said. "I'm not going to let Durham's view in the minds of the world to be a bunch of lacrosse players from Duke raping a black girl in Durham."- MF
"I've told everybody who has asked me that I do believe a sexual assault occurred," he said. "I haven't pointed a finger at anybody. It is possible -- I don't expect this -- it's possible that the DNA could come back, and we would see that it was someone who didn't match the profile of the lacrosse players."- MF
"It doesn't mean nothing happened," Nifong said at a public forum at North Carolina Central University, where the 27-year-old alleged victim is a student. "It just means nothing was left behind."- MF
"In terms of what I said, no, I wouldn't say I regret anything I've said," - Mike Nifong
Please note several of l.j. posts.. She's been trying to make the point for a long time that just because they only found one match doesn't mean that there wasn't other DNA found that they couldn't match...
I agreed with her some time back that they didn't say there wasn't any other DNA found in her. They have only said there was a match found to a single male source
Many, self included initially ran with that as they only found evidence of DNA in the vaginal swab to one DNA and one SOURCE... They really haven't said that... exactly...
" Do we know they took samples from the "drivers"? I hadn't heard that.. "
I am vague on that also.
I assumed that CM named her "drivers " as the donors, rather than those she entertained at the motels.
Because that way, it would make the driver/ CM sex voluntary- while the CM / motel client sex would be prostitution.
I can remember watching the leader of the New Black Panthers before he even went to law school. He was a skinny kid then, doing warm-up speeches for Farrakhan.
I used to watch some of Farrakhan's long, racist diatribes, just to hear it for myself. He ran them on public access. He may still do that. I don't know. You hear one three hour speech from him, you've heard them all.
Anyone who doesn't repudiate him lacks any moral standing.
Best bet: An honest cop, an informer or records from the prostitute scandal. Cops know who these hookers are, where they hang and who their pimps are. Durham is not unusual.
This may be true, especially if there is a condom used or that there is a delay in reporting the crime or the accuser has taken some action that destroys the evidence. In this case, however, the presented facts clearly dictate that there should be DNA evidence and its absence says a lot about the viability of the case and the veracity of the AV. Therefore, Nifong statement and its repetition by others is totally spurious given the facts of this case.
The whole point of my post 104 was NiFong and the media avoiding the time element....as if he can change the world clock.
More likely because she used condoms with her motel clients and not her "drivers".
In the eastern NC city I used to reside in, Farrakhan's followers stood on street corners on Fridays and handed out his paper. I took one to see what it had to say. Needless to say it was very disturbing.
In my opinion all of these groups and their leaders lost their "moral standing" long ago. Even though I grew up in the south and lived there most all of my life, I have always considered myself fairly unbiased in racial matters. Always tried to judge people by the content of their character long before the famous MLK speech. More and more, I begin to question how I can remain unbiased in light of the total lack of character exhibited by the so called leaders of the black community.
yah.... Bissey...
NIFONG: Isn't it true Mr. Bissey that you heard these boys making racially charged comments to the women..
BISSEY: yah...
NIFONG: Did you hear the girls make any racially charged comments to the boys...
BISSEY: nope...
NIFONG: There you have it... these boys musta raped that girl... the state rests...
No judge wants to be made an a** of by a DA.
Trials are rescheduled all the time. I really don't think this will go on much longer. The NAACP jumping in with a desire for a "gag order" is a good sign for the boys, not a bad sign.
That's what I'm talking about. Where are black leaders when it comes to Farrakhan? I'll answer that question. They have caved in, rather than offend. As long as Farrakhan keeps the racist coals stoked, he's doing his part for them.
Interesting statement. Do they expect her to be on trial eventually? That's certainly the implication.
That's how they're gonna slither out of this thing. If it doesn't go to trial they'll say "she was deprived of her right to a fair trial" and the Duke players will never have their names cleared.
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