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To: GMMAC

Actually the actions of fighting the dogs in the Pits and using the survivors for breed stock to make the ultimate canine warrior is almost straight out of Hitler's master race plan.... It happens over thousands of years in nature, but the cruel bull baiters accomplished it over a few decades.

But alas...I still don't hear any constructive solutions from the "lobby" on how to deal with these dogs. It was a big strategic mistake to embark on the deceitful denial PR campaign that Pit Bulls are everyman's dog IMHO. You should have welcomed restricted breeding licenses and special accomodations for the dogs to prevent these increasingly common maulings. Now it's become a law enforcement and public safety issue, which you have lost control of.

It may be too late to wait around for the Pit Bull community to act responsibly...There were 15 deaths caused by APBTs last year alone, far more than any other breed.

PREVENT THE DEED


334 posted on 05/31/2006 3:49:06 PM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Wristpin

"It may be too late to wait around for the Pit Bull community to act responsibly...There were 15 deaths caused by APBTs last year alone, far more than any other breed. "\

Again, those stats are waaaay off. I did your research, you know, the all-scientific gooooogling. I found that there were five deaths, repeated over and over again, with slightly different details. Run over different news stations, some at different times. There are, in any one year, between 15 and 25 deaths TOTAL, no matter the breed, and this hasn't changed as long as there have been people to count it.


335 posted on 05/31/2006 4:53:11 PM PDT by solosmoke
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To: Wristpin

And as for your tobacco companies fighting for decades, well that was IRREFUTABLY PROVEN to be the case. You cannot compare them with news reporters. Why? They did the same bullshizzzle to dobermans, rotts, and gsd's. Guess what?? These dogs are now out of the spotlight. Is it because they are somehow less dangerous? No! It's because they are less popular. That is the way it has always worked. It has been decades, and no proof.

There is irrefutable proof, however, to the contrary of your opinion. There are many organizations out there run independently that make NO MONEY from the pet industry which compile NUMBERS. These numbers don't lie. They just ARE. I don't need Sally so-n-so of the six o'clock news telling me pit bulls are vicious when I can do the research myself, through hospitals and public records, and find the dusty, forgotten opposite, better known as the TRUTH.


336 posted on 05/31/2006 4:59:02 PM PDT by solosmoke
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To: Wristpin; Fair Go; Candor7; feinswinesuksass; solosmoke; proud_yank; fanfan; kanawa
As per usual, you've dodged the real issue, with nothing whatsoever to say as to the quite obvious moral wrongness illustrated by the personal example cited in my post #332.

Now you're going on about APBT's (American Pit Bull Terriers - an actual breed openly recognized by the AKC).

Quite plainly, you either fail to comprehend and/or are deliberately misrepresenting the issue of supposed 'breed ban legislation':

It's not about any specific 'breed', PETA and its social fascist fellow travelers are demanding a societal blank cheque to harass otherwise responsible, law-abiding dog-owners and to kill any dogs they don't like the look of.
338 posted on 05/31/2006 5:53:49 PM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: Wristpin; GMMAC
But alas...I still don't hear any constructive solutions from the "lobby" on how to deal with these dogs. It was a big strategic mistake to embark on the deceitful denial PR campaign that Pit Bulls are everyman's dog IMHO.

Name one breed that is 'everyman's dog'? If any dog owner is found guilty of pure negligence, why not simply hold them responsible?

You should have welcomed restricted breeding licenses and special accomodations for the dogs to prevent these increasingly common maulings. Now it's become a law enforcement and public safety issue, which you have lost control of.

15 deaths in one year is something you have kept this debate going so long over??? Given that, I am more concerned about a meteor killing me than a pitbull.

As for restricted breeding & licenses, that will work as well as licensing for gun owners as a crime deterrent.

Again, my question stands: What breed will be next?
339 posted on 05/31/2006 6:09:30 PM PDT by proud_yank (A liberal's 'generosity' is limited to the funds available in someone else's account.)
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To: Wristpin
But alas...I still don't hear any constructive solutions from the "lobby" on how to deal with these dogs. It was a big strategic mistake to embark on the deceitful denial PR campaign that Pit Bulls are everyman's dog IMHO.

The "Pitbulls are not a problem ground" in this thread did suggest controls on the dogs by way of an authority they cited that suggested Pitbull owners should take training classes. As soon as they realized that is what their authority said, they backed off the proposition in a hurry, What I suspect is that we are debating some 15-year-olds cuttled up next to their pitbull pets as they post here and thinking their dog could never attack anyone. .

351 posted on 06/01/2006 12:20:23 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: Wristpin
Hitler's master race plan>>>>>>>>>

Buahahahahahahaha! His plan was to cross breed liberals and socialists until they developed a natural sense of moral superiority with which they would take away the rights of all fellow, morally inferior free men.

Hey! Why are you wagging your tail?

397 posted on 06/02/2006 1:00:00 PM PDT by Candor7
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