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Duke rape case set for 2007
Toronto Star ^ | May 19, 2006. 07:02 AM | staff

Posted on 05/19/2006 7:17:27 AM PDT by Perdogg

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To: GAgal
Yale Galenter just told Abrams that according to the discovery info turned over yesterday, the accuser was asked at the hospital whether her attackers wore condoms and she said "No."

How HUGE is that?

181 posted on 05/19/2006 1:43:53 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the DBM)
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To: Locomotive Breath
Yeah, we don't even know if Collin or Reade drank that night. They probably did if they showed up at the party--which is in doubt in Collin's case. But we don't know. The fact is that these boys could be perfectly sober and the stripper could still cried rape and got them into trouble. Maybe these prohibitionists should protest against Stripper Drinking instead.
182 posted on 05/19/2006 1:45:29 PM PDT by OrinocoJack (Free the Ham Sammich! Disbar Nifong!)
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To: GAgal

Is there any report on what was in the material turned over by Nifung yesterday. Does it have any material that holdouts like Wendy Murphy suggest are out there in support.


183 posted on 05/19/2006 1:50:14 PM PDT by streeeetwise
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To: streeeetwise
His local power base is too strong.

That was also before the exculpatory evidence in the case became known. Now we have the ATM camera, the fast food receipts, the dorm ID card timestamps, the taxi driver, the mustache, the settlement lawyer, sex with boyfriend, etc., added to the mix. I'm just asking, would this be enough to taint Nifong if the people think he's ruining the lives of Duke students for his own personal gain?

People have to consider the economic impact to their county if Duke University loses enrollment over this. They already canceled their lacrosse season and the coach resigned. If parents send their children elsewhere, and donations to the school dwindle, all over this case, and it turns out to be a scam that Nifong elongated for his own career interests, then would the people still support him?

-PJ

184 posted on 05/19/2006 1:50:59 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Neverforget01

Hugh and series!!


185 posted on 05/19/2006 1:53:10 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Political Junkie Too

the voters dont care about that. what he did resonated with enough of the population to win. unless it blows up completely (the stripper says Nifong coerced her into going forward) they will still love him. also, he has enought other favors out after thirty years to lock up another group. I just don't see it. Freda Black was a great candidate, a great trial lawyer who had shown a willingness to take on tough cases and she hates Nifong and ran hard against him. His play was cynical but effective.


186 posted on 05/19/2006 1:54:29 PM PDT by streeeetwise
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To: Political Junkie Too

Look at Nifong's base. They were probably too poor or ignorant to enjoy any benefit from a good local economy anyway. As far as the dem voter in Durham are concerned, the more Durham becomes a cesspool, the better for them. At least their poverty wouldn't show that much among neighbors.


187 posted on 05/19/2006 1:57:27 PM PDT by OrinocoJack (Free the Ham Sammich! Disbar Nifong!)
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To: Perdogg

This is such a boatload of crap! If these guys were as guilty as the DA says they are, then he would go ahead with a trial.


188 posted on 05/19/2006 1:58:03 PM PDT by SAMS (Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: Neverforget01

Good grief, if that is true then she has some serious difficulties holding on to reality. Perhaps she hadn't heard of DNA. To assert rape that would leave evidence and then there not be any -- and Nifong knew this! God, I hope there is one fully functioning, objective adult in the Durham judicial system to put an end to this.


189 posted on 05/19/2006 1:58:53 PM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Actually, the only thing that came out before the election was the negative first DNA test. That should have been enough because it showed Nifong up. Since it was not, and he won, it's clear that his constituency wants this case prosecuted contrary to all evidence.
190 posted on 05/19/2006 2:00:37 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath
Maybe Duke needs to start laying off some custodial staff due to "unforeseen economic downturns."

-PJ

191 posted on 05/19/2006 2:03:48 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: streeeetwise
Defense attorney Yale Galenter on the Abrams panel has been in contact with attorneys for the Lacrosse players.

Says there is no smoking gun in the report, and SANE rape exam consistent with what defense has been saying. And as noted in a prior post, accuser told SANE nurses that no condoms were used.

The ever hateful Georgia Goslee still shilling, saying the defense could not possibly know yet that there is no smoking gun due to the 1200+ pages. Then says the DA only turned over exculpatory evidence.

Gets slapped down by other panelsts on that claim. NC attorney on panel corrects her, citing NC law requiring he turn over everything.

192 posted on 05/19/2006 2:04:51 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Political Junkie Too

I have no idea, but this is my best educated guess. Nifong delivered something to someone (i.e. indictment of rich, elite, white boys for raping a po po 'ho)

Who has been "in your face" since then? The NPB. They managed to have a face to face with Nifong (unless it has been proven to be a rumor).

Now how did that happen? Did they walk up to the 6th floor and simply knock on the door? No, someone had to bridge the gap.

It would have to be someone Nifong knew, someone important to the black community. someone with ties to Durham and Duke, someone familar with both sides of the coin. It could also be someone with historical ties to that area of the state. Someone who has the "respect" it takes to deliver votes.

It could be someone with a long involvement in race relations in that area, as far back as MLK and even as recent as the Greensboro shootout.

Nifong kept the first part of his bargain with the first 2 indictments. He needs to keep it up until November.

Only speculating...............


193 posted on 05/19/2006 2:07:32 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Ken H

Goslee is still on the panel?

Anyway, sounds like riveting tv. Will watch rerun later.


194 posted on 05/19/2006 2:08:28 PM PDT by OrinocoJack (Free the Ham Sammich! Disbar Nifong!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Elsewhere I proposed that Duke "outsource" some of their jobs by bringing in people from outside Durham.


195 posted on 05/19/2006 2:12:47 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: streeeetwise

This was what the accuser told the nurse examiner, whose SANE report Nifong kept pointing to. According to what the defense told Galanter, the nurse asked specifically if her attackers wore condoms ... she said "NO".

Of course, Wendy will say "until I see with my own eyes ..."


196 posted on 05/19/2006 2:12:51 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Whoops
NPB should be NBP

(I hate it when that happens)


197 posted on 05/19/2006 2:14:33 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Locomotive Breath
Elsewhere I proposed that Duke "outsource" some of their jobs by bringing in people from outside Durham.

Does Duke have an in-state tuition program for illegals?

-PJ

198 posted on 05/19/2006 2:15:03 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: GAgal

Can the SANE report be released to the public - assuming that personal identifying information is redacted?


199 posted on 05/19/2006 2:15:43 PM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: GAgal

So if I'm remembering right Nifong is on public record, after the first DNA test, saying that the reason that test failed to find lax team member DNA is that they could have worn condoms. All that time he had in his possession the SANE report in which Crystal said they didn't. I guess now he's going to claim that she could not have known that one way or the other.


200 posted on 05/19/2006 2:16:56 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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