Lawyer to request Duke accuser’s records

MSNBC ^ | Updated: 10:26 a.m. ET May 18, 2006 | staff

[cdga5for4]

Yeah, can you imagine if it was a black defendant and a white person yelled out such a threat?

[Peach]

We're on this thread discussing Abrams show and what happened in the hearing:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1634143/posts?q=1&&page=601

[luv2ski]

This was posted today at Friends of Duke Lacrosse, a blog (http://www.friendsofdukelacrosse.blogspot.com/): I am a Durham resident. I do not know these boys personally but I do know that they helped coach lacrosse for the youth of Durham every fall for the past few years. NEVER were they late. They were always engaging, energetic, and positive. The accuser, not sure if I am allowed to use her name(s) she goes by two different names, is a repeat criminal who sells her body for sex and is a drug user. It seems common sense is lost on our DA and some members of the Durham community. Evidence aside we all know these boys are innocent. Enter the evidence and it is obvious that they are innocent. It is embarrassing to say I live in Durham and that our DA is vindictive and on a witch hunt. Everyone I speak to in the community speaks only in support of the boys, the team, the coaches, and all the families involved. You would be surprised how many people know this to be a false accusation that has spiraled out of control. There are several people in the community who want to do something to show their support. If you all have any recommendations/suggestions on how we can channel these efforts let me know and I am happy to get the ball rolling. I pray every day that the charges are dropped and that a judge will see this case for what it is. A liar ruining the lives of MANY people. 1:47 PM, May 18, 2006

[Enterprise]

"Also, according to Greta, he yelled out that he was, "dead man walking."

Sounds like a threat of violence to me. RS's attorney should demand a criminal investigation and a restraining order.

[bjc]

Sorry, I must have missed something: What threat?

[Enterprise]

I don't know if Nifong outright won the election, because it seems he got enough votes. If he didn't, they can organize a write-in campaign for someone else. If he did win, then on the DAY he officially takes office after the general election, institute a recall. But start researching the recall procedure now, and get people organized in advance so it will go smoothly and quickly. And if he survives the recall? Launch another one. And another one, and another one. Get a solid, dedicated, steadfast and unwavering group of people together so that his career as the D/A becomes a living hell.

[dubyawhoiluv]

check out the sat's of the students at NCCU, the majority of students take endless remedial courses just to qualify for BASIC courses;they have the same problems encountered at many colleges underage drinking, non-stop partying,misuse of meal cards and on and on.While on active duty as a nurse, the biggest "whores" on base were members of black fraternities amd their parties were let's say "you had to be careful". To state over endlessly that these boys were elite,had no regard for the law is just the media attempts to lay the groundwork that these boys were capable because of their histories.The race baiters and hustlers in this great country are always attempting to promote victimhood when the reality is there are kids who are just not qualified to attend college, let alone a first rate one like Duke.I hope the defense uncovers skeletons in "Nitwit Nifong's" background esp. that time he got a lap dance at the "hairy hole strip club".

[JustaCowgirl]

Thanks Peach. I'll show up on the Abrams' thread shortly. I wish I could watch Abrams' show. I'm sure it's pretty intense today.

[RecallMoran]

A lot of that is the type of students Duke tends to attract. They have a reputation in the state for bringing in some real spoiled brats who have massive sense of entitlement.
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Thanks. Duke '85

It also attracts 1500 SATs, 4.0 averages, communiy service, and demonstrated talent in athletics, the arts, etc.

[YaYa123]

"Did you find it interesting that the cell phone service was terminated the very day after the alleged incident? I wonder who cancelled it."

("boyfriend" euphamism for pimp, I'm betting)

My guess is the phone belonged to her "boyfriend", and he cancelled service when she told him she left it at the house. The boyfriend dropped her off at the house, no doubt she was supposed to call him to pick her up. But she didn't get paid, and remember how she refused to get out of the car at the Kroger? I bet she was scared to death of that "boyfriend", and made up the rape story as an excuse for not bringing home the dough.

Armchair sleuth, at your service.

[TommyDale]

I think you are 100% correct, and the pimp -- er, boyfriend -- did the beating because of the shortage of money.

[Continental Soldier]

So far this case seems to be a disgrace to America and to our 'equal justice under law' doctrine. Is there no oversight on cases like this one? Is there no authority above Mr.Nifong who can restore objectivity and fair play? And if not, what the hell has happened to our country?!

[Tarheel]

Greta spoke about the atmosphere in Durham (I am paraphrasing)--it is not good in a race relations sense.

W/B anxious to see her this evening .

[John Galt's cousin]

thanks for the ping

[FlowJo]

thanks for the info

[FlowJo]

Thanks for the correct information. I wonder even if the student body is sometimes a burden on the county, they must spend their money there and contribute somehow. Is Durham a "real college" town, so to speak?

[peggybac]

Does anyone know exactly what the black person sitting in the courtroom said to Reade Seligmann? I've been hearing about it on Fox but they say they can't repeat it because of the vulgarities, except at the end when the black yelled, "Dead man walking" or something like that.

[VaFarmer]

One thing that you are not going to get about this situation if you aren't from North Carolina is that Duke attracts Yankees. Folks from north of the Mason-Dixon often don't recognize that there is strong regional feeling at work here. I worked all over the eastern United States. Folks from the North believe that North Carolina folks are ignorant and bigoted. Folks from the South believe kids from New York and New Jersey are arrogant and pushy. For both groups these feelings seem obvious and they assume that everybody shares their view-- a sort of "everybody knows...." sort of thing. These Lax guys are paying a price for generations of Yankees acting in ways that are appropriate at home and out of place in Durham.

To a North Carolina view, these kids are way out of line hiring a black stripper for a keg party. It's asking for trouble in their view. You can't expect the black community to be happy with a bunch of out-of-state white kids debauching their daughters, for money or not. They know this woman's reputation is spotted. Nevertheless, there are bound to be bad racial feelings and North Carolinians just don't go for that.

In North Carolina there are very few bars or clubs with nude dancers (virtually none).

Drink and violence, including racial violence, are linked together as well. North Carolina black professionals hardly ever drink in mixed race settings. It's part of the accomodation made to help an integrated society work.

There is trouble written all over this case from this point of view.

The bottom line is that the feelings that you see in letters to the editor and from the taunts of extremists involves more than a classic black/white opposition. It's region, class, manners and values, on top of race.

[Jezebelle]

I wish it would happen. Whites need to start fighting back, filing lawsuits, organizing protests, etc., in rebuttal to this BS. I think the defense should report to the presiding judge and the state bar that the person who was making these remarks in the courtroom is the same person that Mike Nifong met privately with just a few short weeks ago (while simultaneously refusing to meet with the defendant, I might add).

[SmoothTalker]

" Is Durham a "real college" town, so to speak?"

Not really. Duke is the biggest employer but the town itself is pretty big and most people aren't connected to Duke. It doesn't have much of a downtown either and has a lot of neighborhoods that really aren't safe. The murder rate is pretty bad and they usually have a lot of gang problems.