Posted on 05/18/2006 8:13:44 AM PDT by polymuser
Mary Cheney was just on NPR's Diane Rehm Show, promoting her new book "Now It's My Turn".
She spanked Diane and the standard lib callers pretty darned good. Sounded like they just can't possibly fathom a conservative Republican gay person. She set them straight about her parent's investments going into a nonrevocable trust that goes to charity, about the 2004 election being about trust and national security and not about Republican misrepresentation, about her being a person speaking her own mind and not a glbt shrill, and other good stuff. She told a number of callers they were just wrong about things. And she left Rehm without words a few times, trying to deal with some truths. That's always priceless.
I doubt NPR will invite her back for any future segments.
I think you and I have had very different experiences here on FR and with others that call themselves conservatives. I do not get the feeling of good will towards gays here at all. I think the whole Christy Todd Whitman PAC, "It's My Party Too", is about addressing how not inclusive the Republican party is to others.
You feel out of step because of your vegetarianism? Now that is funny. What does being a vegetarian have to do with your political beliefs?
I find myself feeling "out of step" with other conservatives over the Intelligent Design debate. My opinion is it is not a science and should not be pushed as one. I have taken a break from arguing it on here because it just goes round and round in circles.
I would never recommend any of my acquaintances who happen to be gay or lesbian come to FR.
This is the kind of judgment they will receive and the piling on will continue as the informal network of the righteous is notified that a homosexual is on the thread.
Interestingly, Christian charity goes out the window when the "christians" start their ranting about homosexuality.
Why would anybody come here and put up with the abuse?
Also take for example Rudi Giuliani. What do most pundits think is one of his biggest weakness if he ever ran for president? His support for gay rights.
Am I missing something here?
Homosexuality is but one form of sexual degeneracy. You trying to lobby for normalcy, sinky?
I almost think conservatives are split down the middle on this. I hope I'm wrong.
On FR many people want to actually have a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. On one thread I had some serious arguments with people because I said I felt that it was wrong to use the Constitution in this manner. You should have seen the sparks fly over that statement.
What I perceive is that politicians are scared to death of this issue. I think they are pretending to be very conservative regarding states because they wish this issue would go away. They see it as a carreer buster. My evidence of that is the way that Corporate America embraced domestic partner benefits all at once overnight. No one wanted to challenge the PC machine.
Normalcy? If I was convinced those of you who are so rabid against homosexuals were exhibiting actual concern for them, I might have refrained from posting.
But, it's not about concern for human beings, is it? It's about how good you are and how rotten they are.
Too many of the "christians" on this board are anything but.
Sinkspur, it seems you and I are in agreement that FR would not be the most tolerant place for a gay person to come to. While I am a fiscal conservative and in many ways socially conservative, I find the whole gay-marriage amendment stuff an abuse of our constitution.
That is why I said I find it hard to fathom that a gay would be conservative. Now libertarian... I could see that.
Very well said.
Split down the middle. If so then half of the conservatives are very quiet.
What I perceive is that politicians are scared to death of this issue.
The question is why be afraid?
Gays are generally pretty intelligent, and they know that most conservatives are not reactionaries.
Very true. We have several good friends who are gay and in committed relationships.
What they do with their sex lives is as irrelevant to me as what I do with my sex life is irrelevant to them.
The problem comes in when one's sexuality becomes their identity rather than an aspect of their lives.
Normal, healthy, conservative gay people abound!
What happens when a corporation takes a stand against domestic partner benefits? They will be targeted by the liberal media and run the risk of making all of their corporate customers mad. That's a risk they don't even want to think about.
Now we are starting to see any politician that is against the gay agenda labeled as anti-civil-rights nor pro-discrimination. Did you happen to hear Laura Bush on the subject on Fox news. She danced around the subject saying she didn't want to see it used as a political weapon. No personal opinion on the matter at all.
True enough. But those types don't realize that their argument is already a lost cause - people 25 and under overwhelmingly support gay rights and even gay marriage. In another generation, that debate will simply cease to matter, whether any of us older people are comfortable with homosexuality or not.
Those ranting Faux Christians need to focus on supporting small government and keeping government out of their lives, not on making government more powerful so it can go out and smite people they don't like. That's a double-edged sword.
I hvae great respect for Mary Cheney and its great to see her defending her choices in public and exposing Kerry/Edwards for the opportunist scum they are. I hope someday she will choose to no longer be gay and disgusting and she can enjoy all the rights granted to all good straight Christian Americans.
Myself, I'd apply that to liberals and their philosophies before I'd apply it to true Christians.
You have "great respect" for someone you consider "disgusting". That's a neat trick.
What is NPR?
When I read a post like http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1633267/posts that is titled "ExxonMobil's gay problem (Barf Alert!)" I shake my head in amazement. I wonder how many people are on the "Homosexual Agenda Ping" list.
you never watched Bill Lambier (sp?) play hoops....
Not if those young people gain wisdom with age. Indoctrination and naivete don't have to be permanent.
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