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SELIGMAN: ADDITIONAL MOTION FOR VOLUNTARY DISCOVERY
WRAL ^ | May 17, 2006

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:41:55 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights

http://www.wral.com/dukelacrosse/index.html

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News
KEYWORDS: allegations; duke; dukelax; durham; falseallegations; lacrosse; northcarolina; rape
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To: Dr. Richard Kimble

She has mentioned it several times in the past when the subject was the dancer and Vann was on. Today he was with her just as a guide to NC law and local rules of court.


921 posted on 05/19/2006 12:15:00 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Rheo

Yeah, well, Ted forgot to mention that the local black rabble-rouser hiding behind a church gave Shabazz and his gang of thugs an open forum more than once so, outsider or not, SOMEBODY wants him there. The city manager could tell him to hit the road, the local black leaders of those various political organizations could tell him to hit the road, too, but none of them are doing it.


922 posted on 05/19/2006 12:18:08 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Rheo

Yeah, she's wimping out because she's a lefty at heart and is too much of a coward to show this case for what it really is because of the race issue. She just isn't going to address this case fairly and accurately because she doesn't want to offend any blacks. She, and others, don't mind offending whites, but we must not offend a black person. What she and other um....mulit-culturalists don't get is that BREATHING, when done by a white, is an offense to many blacks.


923 posted on 05/19/2006 12:22:22 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Rheo

Bernie is for the defense. He gave up on Nifong a while ago. Even Hammer has almost completely thrown in the towel on Nifong, but he's not 100%. Hammer and fieger had a shouting match about prosecutorial ethics. Fieger said 50% of them push bogus cases where they know the defendant is innocent. Hammer got mad, said he was way off base. i think Fieger's off-base on the 50%, but not the concept in general.


924 posted on 05/19/2006 12:26:45 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Dr. Richard Kimble

Bernue doesn't defend Nifong, and when Jeff Brown is on, he's very against Nifong.


925 posted on 05/19/2006 12:27:33 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

He also represented Lionel Tate, whose parole Fieger worked so hard to get was just violated today to the tune of twenty years. You will remember dear Lionel. He was that great big 12 year-old son of the female black FL highway patrol who killed a 6 year-old neighbor child that the mother was supposed to be watching but was instead sleeping upstairs. Lionel and the little girl were downstairs watching TV. Lionel beat her and threw her around like a rag doll - he was a really big kid. She suffered some forty blows to her head and body. Fieger got him a second trial after he was convicted of first-degree murder, and got him sentenced to time-served and aprole. he was about 16 then. He's been in trouble since then, and got parole, again thanks to Fieger. The last incident is that he was picked up as a felon in possession of a gun, and his 20 year sentence goes back into effect. It's guys like Fieger who put sociopathic killers like Tate on the streets, with a little help from the elftwing judiciary. Tate is going away for a long time this time. I heard Fieger isn't going to help him again, but who knows?


926 posted on 05/19/2006 12:36:41 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Dr. Richard Kimble

I saw that. What a brain dead idiot. As Morgan Freeman said, we need to have less discussion about race, more discussion about responsibility, and otherwise shutup and lead our own lives. But it seems to me that a certain growing faction of black America wants a race war.


927 posted on 05/19/2006 12:38:57 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Dr. Richard Kimble

Threatening a public official is a violation there, I would guess, like it is in most or all states. but I don't think it would be a violation to say, "Dumb man walking", or "Lying man walking", or "Little man walking."


928 posted on 05/19/2006 12:41:18 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Dr. Richard Kimble

If they don't get a change of venue to a more moderate jurisdiction in NC, I would put my kid on a plane to Europe to a country not on friendly relations with the U.S. - perhaps Spain. There is no way I would let him face this kind of a mindset in jurors, and NC does not allow bench trials.


929 posted on 05/19/2006 12:47:19 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Howlin

>>I am ill as a snake and really tired, so to amuse myself, I just called Nancy Grace's hotline:

My message?

"Somebody needs to tell Nancy Grace there is NO right to a speedy trial in North Carolina; the more she says it, the dumber she looks."<<

Good for you, Howlin!
Hope that made you feel better.


930 posted on 05/19/2006 1:35:44 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret
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To: Howlin

Good job!


931 posted on 05/19/2006 1:50:09 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Mad-Margaret

Fresh Information from the N & O

http://www.newsobserver.com/122/story/441262.html

Test: Boyfriend likely sperm source
Report says it's not from players

Jim Nesbitt, Joseph Neff and Samiha Khanna, Staff Writers

DURHAM - The latest DNA analysis shows that the boyfriend of the woman who says she was raped by three men at a Duke lacrosse team party is the most likely source of sperm found in her body.

However, the director of the private laboratory in Burlington that conducted the test said it is impossible to pinpoint when the woman had sex.

"In general, if we test a vaginal swab, there's no way to determine how old the semen is on that swab," said Brian Meehan, laboratory director of DNA Security Inc. Meehan would not discuss the tests conducted in the lacrosse investigation.

As a rule of thumb, live sperm cells can live inside the body for 48 to 72 hours after sex, said Marcia Eisenberg, technical director for Laboratory Corp. of America Holdings, a forensic identity lab. Even after the sperm cells die, it is possible to extract DNA from fluid left in the body.

The sample tested by Meehan's lab was recovered from the woman during the administration of a rape kit and medical examination at Duke Hospital early the morning of March 14. This was shortly after the woman, an escort service dancer, told police she was raped during a team party at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd. that started March 13.

The lab report, requested by Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong and released to defense attorneys May 12, ruled out all 46 lacrosse players who submitted DNA samples as sources of the sperm and said there were no matches with the company's in-house data bank of 3,561 DNA profiles. The report said the boyfriend, who is not a suspect in the case, could not be excluded.

The DNA Security report said Dave Evans, one of three senior co-captains living in the rental house on Buchanan Boulevard, could not be excluded as the source of the DNA found on an artificial fingernail taken from a wastebasket in a bathroom at the house. But the report also noted that 14 of the 3,561 profiles in the company's DNA data bank could not be excluded as sources.

Nifong requested the second test by DNA Security because the Burlington lab has more sophisticated capabilities than the State Bureau of Investigation lab in Raleigh, defense attorneys said. The SBI tests showed no DNA links between the accuser and the members of the lacrosse team.

Evans, 23, of Bethesda, Md., is one of three players charged with first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping in the case. The others are: Collin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, N.Y., and Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J.

Attorneys for the three accused players have been trying to reconstruct the accuser's whereabouts and whom she may have encountered in the hours before she and another escort service dancer arrived at the team party.

As part of that effort, Kirk Osborn, Seligmann's attorney, asked Durham Superior Court Judge Ronald L. Stephens to order Nifong to turn over a cell phone the accuser left at the Buchanan Boulevard house. Stephens ordered the phone be examined and results provided to him for a review.

Where accuser went

On March 24, in her only interview with a reporter, the accuser said she was notified about 8:30 p.m. the night of the party that she was supposed to appear at the Buchanan Boulevard house about 11 p.m.

In an interview earlier this week, her father said he saw his daughter a few times March 13. That afternoon, he said, she picked up her two children from elementary school. About 9:30 p.m., he said, she brought the children to their grandparents' house for the evening.

"She was fine," he said.

After their arrival, he and his daughter took a short car ride about 10 p.m. to a neighborhood convenience store at Cornwallis Road and South Roxboro Street. He bought a pack of cigarettes but said he did not recall what his daughter purchased.

When the two returned to his house, the woman said she had to go out and wouldn't return until 1:30 a.m. He said he does not know whether she left in her own car or someone picked her up. He said she did call him to say she safely reached her destination -- about 11:30 p.m., about the start of a late-night talk show he was watching.

The man said he did not know his daughter was working as an escort that night. She didn't return until late the morning of March 14, the father said.

(Staff writer Benjamin Niolet and news researcher Brooke Caine contributed to this report.)
Staff writer Jim Nesbitt can be reached at (919) 829-8955 or jim.nesbitt@newsobserver.com.
Staff writer Benjamin Niolet and news researcher Brooke Caine contributed to this report.


932 posted on 05/19/2006 1:50:40 AM PDT by abb (If it Ain't Posted on FreeRepublic, it Ain't News)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

Good points on the missing medical consultants and what that portends as far as the extent of her injuries goes.

Also missing is anybody from Duke Access, but that's no surprise, lol! I hope that defense counsel will interview them after he extracts an order from the judge to make them turn over the records so they can get the names of the relevant people.


933 posted on 05/19/2006 1:57:41 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

Here's one of the witnesses from Duke Medical Hospital. Do you think she's the nurse who examined CM?

http://www.wildmed.com/employee_profiles/emp_prof_k_r.html

Tara Levicy, RN, WEMT
Chapel Hill, NC
Tara is an RN and sexual assault forensic nurse in the
emergency department at Duke University Hospital. She
has been a WEMT since 1999. She spent many years
living in Maine where she worked as a whitewater
rafting guide and outdoor educator. Now that she is
living in warmer climates, she enjoys cycling (off and
on road), hiking, and running.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:rc7woPqNoP0J:www.wildmed.com/eletters/2003/eletter_august_03.pdf

Tara Levicy Schnitker, WEMT -B, WMA instructor, has
her BA in Women’s Studies, and a certificate in
Outdoor Education from the University of Maine. She
works for Planned Parenthood as a healthcare associate
and is hoping to begin a nurse practitioner program in
the spring.


934 posted on 05/19/2006 2:18:44 AM PDT by Waterfall
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To: abb

Thanks, abb.

What's new in this article? Didn't we already know that the sperm was from the "boyfriend"?

And as for anything from Crystal's father, well... that changes by the minute.

I am so outraged by this case.


935 posted on 05/19/2006 2:25:13 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret
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To: Waterfall

Oh, geez. Women's studies. Planned Parenthood. I think we can expect a very biased report if she in fact was the nurse on duty who performed the exam that night.


936 posted on 05/19/2006 2:52:38 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: stands2reason
The names you search on may be more common than you think.

Yep. The John Lewis connection to the Greensboro event of 1979 was the only matter I had the greatest difficulty with. I get multiple sources confirming the data before posting.

Still, his brother (who doesn't have a very common first name either) has a name-twin who lives and works less than 100 miles away.

Yep, I know this one. Is that why you were haranging me on the other thread? And because you suspected I was merely connecting bland dots by name or ethnicity?

937 posted on 05/19/2006 3:36:54 AM PDT by Alia
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To: TexKat
Thank you, TexKat. I thought defense did a very good job. He framed his position very well. Nifong did not do well; but he did play to his "live drama constituency" with his snarl and his "not knowing" if there was anything of interest on Crystal's phone. The NBPer threats worked perfectly too.

I suspect the corruption network dominant in Durham wouldn't at ==all== mind seeing the cameras focused on this trial in another location.

938 posted on 05/19/2006 3:46:35 AM PDT by Alia
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To: onyx; Howlin

>>Judge refused to reconsider lowering the bond,

That is inaccurate. The judge just wouldn't do so in the hearing. He said he'd read the report (formal written request) for reducing the bail, and they'd consider it in the next hearing.


939 posted on 05/19/2006 3:48:27 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: I want to know

"Coalition for Drug and Alcohol Free Teenagers" outside the courtroom? Oh well. That's right. This case is about ALCOHOL/sarc.


940 posted on 05/19/2006 3:53:31 AM PDT by Alia
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