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SELIGMAN: ADDITIONAL MOTION FOR VOLUNTARY DISCOVERY
WRAL ^ | May 17, 2006

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:41:55 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights

http://www.wral.com/dukelacrosse/index.html

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News
KEYWORDS: allegations; duke; dukelax; durham; falseallegations; lacrosse; northcarolina; rape
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To: OrinocoJack

About what?


761 posted on 05/18/2006 5:16:48 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Mad-Margaret
Never mind I see the tatoo.

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762 posted on 05/18/2006 5:17:23 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

I guess not even Nifong is stupid enough to call on Kimberly "How Can I Profit" Roberts.

You never know, though.


763 posted on 05/18/2006 5:17:25 PM PDT by OrinocoJack (Free the Ham Sammich! Disbar Nifong!)
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To: onyx
A black heckler (presumambly a panther) had yelled "YOU a dead man walking" and "justice will served, rapist."

Loud enough that you could hear it over TV?

Oh, keep that up! How horrible for him.

764 posted on 05/18/2006 5:17:46 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

today's hearing.

My guess is that defense only have teh evidence for coupla hours and haven't really digested it yet. Abrams didn't ahve much in depth info, which would probably be known to him by tommorrow.


765 posted on 05/18/2006 5:18:56 PM PDT by OrinocoJack (Free the Ham Sammich! Disbar Nifong!)
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To: Howlin


No, we didn't hear it.
Either outside the court room or inside too.

U-G-L-Y.


766 posted on 05/18/2006 5:19:13 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: jiggyboy

When I hear and see Georgia Goslee, it reminds me of what Affirmative Action has produced. She's clearly a product of it. She knows about as much law as the average meter maid. She's a joke. At least most of the others know enough law not to embarrass themselves.


767 posted on 05/18/2006 5:22:13 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: OrinocoJack; onyx

I am ill as a snake and really tired, so to amuse myself, I just called Nancy Grace's hotline:

My message?

"Somebody needs to tell Nancy Grace there is NO right to a speedy trial in North Carolina; the more she says it, the dumber she looks."


768 posted on 05/18/2006 5:23:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
We learned thru the attorney that the FA's phone and purse was found outside....guys brought it in the house...gave it and 5 false nails to police when they came a callin.

Phone was shut off from service the followning day.

Defense needs that phone to do it's tests with experts, don't even know the phone provider yet.

Nifong is an idiot who laughed and smirked when Osborne tried to get bond reduced by turning over boxes of info to support his airtight alibi, produce letters on behalf of Seligman as not a flight risk, etc. Denied by judge as he is out on bond now.

Seligman was threatened with "Dead man walking" as entering court.

769 posted on 05/18/2006 5:23:35 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: Howlin


LOL!

Nancy Disgraceful is such an asshat.


770 posted on 05/18/2006 5:24:45 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Howlin
Both inside and outside the courtroom. One man was inside and I guess he was the one who said "dead man walking" when Seligmann entered. There were NBPP outside yelling "justice will be served rapist." Judge Stephens did say he would charge anyone who spoke up, besides himself and the lawyers, with contempt and throw them in jail. Judge Stephens didn't hear any of the comments by the black man inside the courtroom, they were said before he entered and after he left.

Greta gave the best synopsis of the events in and out of the courtroom. Hopefully she will cover it tonight during her show.

771 posted on 05/18/2006 5:24:51 PM PDT by I want to know
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To: Rheo

She shut off her service the next day?


772 posted on 05/18/2006 5:25:17 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin; maggief; Alia; Carolinamom; mystery-ak

Judge to review contents of Duke lacrosse team accuser's cell phone



By Anne Blythe, staff writer

DURHAM — A judge will review the contents of a cell phone used by a woman who said she was raped at a Duke University lacrosse team party before determining whether to give lawyers access to evidence that might help them track the escort service dancer's activity that night.
The decision came today during a court appearance for Reade Seligmann, one of three lacrosse players charged with first degree rape, first degree kidnapping and first degree sex offense.

Kirk Osborn, a lawyer representing Seligmann, told Judge Ronald Stephens that the phone, apparently found outside 610 N. Buchanan Blvd, would allow the defense to see who the accuser talked to that day.

The lawyers feared that mishandling of the phone could lead to a permanent loss of evidence. Stephens ruled that Seligmann's experts can be present when the information is downloaded from the phone, but that the material must be presented to the judge, who will review it and decide in closed chambers whether it contains private information from people not involved in the case.

"I want to make sure no one acts on that information before I see it," Stephens said.

The indictments stem from an investigation into a woman's March 14 allegations that she was raped at a lacrosse team party. Seligmann, Collin Finnerty, and captain David Evans are charged with rape, sexual offense and kidnapping in the case.

District Attorney Mike Nifong told the judge that he turned over 1,278 consecutively numbered pages of evidence, two VHS tapes and one compact disc containing photographs to Seligmann's lawyers today. By law prosecutors are required to turn over their evidence to defense lawyers.

Osborn, who maintains the innocence of his client, told the judge that he was anxious to try the case.

"We want a trial as fast as we can," said Osborn, a Chapel Hill lawyer. "This young kid wants to go to school in the fall."

Nifong told the judge that he was likely at some point to file a motion asking that the three cases be tried together.

Such court appearances typically are routine, but today’s hearing was surrounded by a circus atmosphere.

Representatives of the New Black Panther Party from Atlanta and critics of underage drinking took an opportunity to bask in the spotlight of the national media gathered for the court hearing.

Before and after the hearing, people seeking the limelight paraded their messages outside the Durham County Courthouse.

“Our contention is that if underage drinking is addressed and was addressed in this situation, it would not have occurred,” said Wanda Boone, a founder of Durham TRY Together For Resilient Youth, an organization founded by Boone and her husband, which works to help youth overcome drug, alcohol and other problems.

Dozens of TV cameras were trained toward the courthouse as the time for the hearing neared. The critics of underage drinking held up hand-made signs with the hopes of capturing a TV audience.

As Seligmann walked toward the courthouse with his lawyers at his side, members of the New Black Panther Party shouted at him.

“Justice will be done, rapist,” they shouted.

http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/440884.html


773 posted on 05/18/2006 5:25:51 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Howlin

Well yeah, isn't that what you would do after brutal rape...geez. </s>


774 posted on 05/18/2006 5:25:53 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: Howlin

As you can tell from the above post, these are pics of FA,but unverified

Seligman went to court-blackman called out deadman walking (NBP)

It was about discovery.

Defense wants to examine the phone before the data is "lost" Nifong has no clue what they think they will find. (Mmmm, call log maybe?)
Where is the phone?
Nifong thinks the police have it. Does not know if the investigators have examined it. Sort of "the dog ate my homework"

The Judge (Stephens--DA during prostitution scandal) was grandstanding. Will examine phone en camera-Privacy issues.

Defense mentions airtight alibi and Nifong gives one of the putziest smirks you have ever seen. He does the same thing when defense says Seligman's life is on hold, he wants to get back to school.

Defense tried for a bail reduction-no dice. Bail is appropriate, defendant is free. BAIL REDUCTION DENIED is what the MSM is leading off with-go figure.

Defense wants all evidence (notes, etc) preserved. Judge said not going to give them permission to go thru all police files. WIll not give order to produce what defenseis entitled to.

June 19th (or 16th) nexy date for him.

Oh yeah, Nifong will want them tried together.

Sorryifnot clear--trying to type fast-need to pick upson...Watch Greta tonight..she was in courtroom.


775 posted on 05/18/2006 5:26:15 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: I want to know

Oh, thanks for the tip about Greta.


776 posted on 05/18/2006 5:26:19 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

There is some confusion as to whether the phone was hers or a third party's.


777 posted on 05/18/2006 5:26:59 PM PDT by I want to know
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To: Rheo

That would be the first thing on my mind.


778 posted on 05/18/2006 5:27:08 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: onyx
http://www.wral.com/video/9241111/detail.html
779 posted on 05/18/2006 5:27:08 PM PDT by Publius22
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To: Howlin

Altho, Nifong had to play dumb, as they haven't examined the phone, ya know...and say they don't know it really belongs to her...so could be 3rd or 4th party issues involved....privacy and all.


780 posted on 05/18/2006 5:27:27 PM PDT by Rheo
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