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Da Vinci Code Actor: "Bible Should Have a Disclaimer Saying 'This Is Fiction'"
Today Show/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 05/17/2006 5:54:17 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

by Mark Finkelstein

May 17, 2006

If the Da Vinci Code was already feeding the flames of controversy with its challenge to the basic tenets of Christianity, actor Ian McKellen managed to throw a refinery tank's worth of gasoline on the fire on this morning's Today show, asserting that the Bible should carry a disclaimer saying that it is "fiction."

Matt Lauer, on his second day "On The Road With The Code," was in Cannes for the film festival, where the Code will have its debut. It has already been screened to some critics, who have given it decidedly mixed reviews.

As I reported here yesterday, NBC reporter Melissa Stark timidly dipped a toe in the sea of controversy when yesterday she interviewed Code director Ron Howard, asking how he reacted to the controversy the movie has created . . . for the Church! Sounding more like the Delphic oracle than a Hollywood director, Howard offered up some ambiguous prose about it being healthy thing for people to engage their beliefs.

Lauer took the bull of controversy more directly by the horns when he interviewed the cast and director Howard today. Said Lauer:

"There have been calls from some religious groups, they wanted a disclaimer at the beginning of this movie saying it is fiction because one of the themes in the book really knocks Christianity right on its ear, if Christ survived the crucifixion, he did not die for our sins and therefore was not resurrected. What I'm saying is, people wanted this to say 'fiction, fiction, fiction'. How would you all have felt if there was a disclaimer at the beginning of the movie? Would it have been okay with you?"

There was a pause, and then famed British actor Ian McKellen [Gandalf of Lord of the Rings], piped up:

"Well, I've often thought the Bible should have a disclaimer in the front saying this is fiction. I mean, walking on water, it takes an act of faith. And I have faith in this movie. Not that it's true, not that it's factual, but that it's a jolly good story. And I think audiences are clever enough and bright enough to separate out fact and fiction, and discuss the thing after they've seen it."

With the camera focused on McKellen, one could hear a distinctly nervous laugh in the background, seeming to come from either actor Tom Hanks or director Howard. McKellen's stunning bit of blasphemy is likely to test the adage that all publicity is good publicity.

Finkelstein, recently a guest on the Lars Larson Show, lives in the liberal haven of Ithaca, NY, where he hosts the award-winning public-access TV show 'Right Angle'. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net


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To: weegee
"The Eternal Jew" was produced personally by Joseph Goebbels and was rumored to have been personally approved by Hitler.

Goebbels was a NAZI toady extraordinaire, and you can just see him preening to Hitler and then including every one of 'Hitler's ideas' into this film.

I think that "The Eternal Jew" is, in much the same way as "Mein Kampf", a direct look inside the deranged ideology of 'der Fuhrer'...

241 posted on 05/17/2006 12:28:13 PM PDT by Al Simmons (Four-time Bush Voter 1994-2004!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Troublemaker
"I didn't say, Macbeth; you said, Macbeth"

DOH!

242 posted on 05/17/2006 12:30:16 PM PDT by rvoitier ("News is what's suppressed. Everything else is advertising.")
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To: Pyro7480

They should have asked him what he thought about NAMBLA not carrying legal disclaimers. Or about whether condoms should carry warning disclaimers that they can't prevent the spread of HIV during aggravated or rough anal sex.


243 posted on 05/17/2006 12:31:52 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
While government obviously shouldn't mandate such a thing, McKellen's remark calls up two important points.

First, the New Testament was put together over centuries, culminating in the early fourth century, from various oral sources, retellings, contradictory accounts and interpretations. Further, there were several dozen apocryphal texts, many representing the Gnostic, Arian and other views of theology. The books of the Bible we have today -- containing many contradictions -- were put together centuries after Jesus die.

Sure, literalists say god told the church fathers which ones to include but treating them like eyewitness accounts is indeed unwarranted and objective scholars would have to say that much in the Bible is fiction or highly exaggerated. To believe the stuff is a leap of faith, not rational analysis. So literalists, don't get mad when people point out these problems.

Second, since creationists want to put stickers in science books saying that evolution is just a theory, since Bush wants creationism discussed in schools, and since administration’s “faith-based initiative" hands public money to tax-exempt religious groups (which many religious conservatives rightly oppose!) Christopher Hitchens suggests that such groups should be required to put stickers on Bibles saying, “This is not science” and offer copies of Darwin.
244 posted on 05/17/2006 12:41:26 PM PDT by Ed Hudgins (Rand fan)
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To: liberallarry
There are ALWAYS such segments. That's the tough part, the part which separates the men from the boys.

Yes, there are, but they never had MTV before....One of the popular techniques I have noticed involves either flashing images (which can be easily used for subliminal 'messages' whether they are spelled out or merely conveyed via images).

Another is jigging the camera around when they really don't have anything to show you that would hold interest in a steady shot--just to make something appear to be significant--while obscuring what you are looking at. That can work with subliminals, too.

Freeze frames may reveal background elements which spin the images differently, but you see them anyway, whether you realize it or not.

I don't watch those sort of spastic images any more, and never did much (A Clockwork Orange, the reprogramming sequence comes to mind). (FWIW, I always thought MTV (and the music video) was a personal waste of time as well.)

And I really like parental lockouts on TV sets/cable, at least I can leave the kids in the room.

245 posted on 05/17/2006 12:44:06 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: NCLaw441

He would be more human if he sinned too, wouldn't he?


246 posted on 05/17/2006 12:57:00 PM PDT by DungeonMaster
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To: DungeonMaster

Perhaps, but that would wreck the God part of Him, don't you think?


247 posted on 05/17/2006 12:57:49 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: DungeonMaster
Ian obviously doesn't have the wisdom of Gandalf...

Definitely not, less then Pippin.

What Pippin lacks in wisdom and range of imagination, he more that makes up for in courage and fidelity.

McKellen made a silly comment, but I doubt that he is capable of the fidelity of a Hobbit.

248 posted on 05/17/2006 1:14:43 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Hopefully, his eyes and ears will be opened one day soon.


249 posted on 05/17/2006 1:19:46 PM PDT by petitfour ("Seek the Lord and live.")
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To: Mo1

tell me this should be taken literaslly:

=1st day god said let ther be light and wandered overed waters ...evening morning first day

=2nd day he created firmament dividing waters and heavens...evening morning second day

=3rd day vegetation and such waters begin receding evening morning third day

=4th day he created moon, sun stars for reason of navigation, of times of day, of years, of new day and such...

now tell me how it is that you know evening from morning from a new day without the sun or moon ???


250 posted on 05/17/2006 1:22:03 PM PDT by lemoncandy
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Derivative, trite, and new agey drivel.

Sounds like Hollyweird to me.


251 posted on 05/17/2006 1:24:23 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: stripes1776

Good points, and as I think about it, it's hard to separate wisdom from courage and fidelity. Pippin is looking wiser by the minute.


252 posted on 05/17/2006 1:27:24 PM PDT by DungeonMaster
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To: liberallarry
Funny how you liberal, leftist, socialist, marxists always have to go back several centuries to slam Christianity

liberallarry: That's a real Chistian sentiment.

So you're NOT a liberal, leftist, socialist, marxist? Could have fooled me.

253 posted on 05/17/2006 1:34:10 PM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: weegee
The film hasn't opened yet. It is EXPECTED to be a big blockbuster but then so was Ishtar.

I've always thought Ron Howard's movies were overrated. BAckDraft and Apollo 13 are the only ones I can name, even though I've not seen them in their entirety. If they were good, I would have been able to sit through them by now.

254 posted on 05/17/2006 1:46:18 PM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: subterfuge
Could have fooled me.

Easily apparently, since you don't do even a minimum of homework.

255 posted on 05/17/2006 1:54:13 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Smokin' Joe

It's TV vs. the Internet. Never easy.


256 posted on 05/17/2006 1:55:01 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: longtermmemmory
Fox and Friends just had Mancow say reports from the Cann film festival indicate this movie is "a real stinker". The movie is apparently very bad. This "boycott" stuff is just a PR stunt.

They know it, too, or they would've let critics see it before this week.

257 posted on 05/17/2006 1:58:31 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Well, I didn't care about the Church boycott, or the story line. I was planning on seeing this movie because I can discern fiction from fact. But now hearing Mckellen's comments I think I will sit this one out.


258 posted on 05/17/2006 2:32:13 PM PDT by Blue Scourge (C-17, anywhere, anything, anytime.)
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To: Serb5150

Then please enlighten me as to what else he wrote about Richard Harris.


259 posted on 05/17/2006 4:03:45 PM PDT by tylendel
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To: subterfuge
Quoting from 203 Funny how you liberal, leftist, socialist, marxists always have to go back several centuries to slam Christianity.

I think your post would have been more effective if you had included "the secular humanist, Nazi, communist, wealthy elite, neo-Christian conspiracy to pollute our precious bodily fluids and flouridate the water supply."

260 posted on 05/17/2006 4:28:02 PM PDT by thomaswest (Just curious)
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