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IBM Researchers Set World Record in Magnetic Tape Data Density; 6.67 Billion Bits Per Square Inch
MarketWatch ^ | May 16, 2006 12:01 AM ET | Mike Ross IBM

Posted on 05/16/2006 9:24:40 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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1 posted on 05/16/2006 9:24:42 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"and worked with Fuji Photo Film Co., Ltd. of Japan to develop a next-generation dual-coat magnetic tape capable of storing high-density data."
There was a time when Eastman Kodak knew everything there was to know about film/tape coatings. Sad.
2 posted on 05/16/2006 9:27:23 AM PDT by GSlob
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Linear Tape-Open
LTO Ultrium tape drives, libraries, and autoloaders

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Not a great picture,....but they are palm sized ....not priced for the home market as yet....but the need is coming....seems to me.

3 posted on 05/16/2006 9:36:20 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: ShadowAce; RadioAstronomer

Anyone got a good photo that gives a good idea of the size of the cartridge....


4 posted on 05/16/2006 9:54:04 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...

5 posted on 05/16/2006 10:01:41 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Disaster Recovery bump!


6 posted on 05/16/2006 10:04:09 AM PDT by roaddog727 (eludium PU36 explosive space modulator)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Linear Tape Open (LTO) tape cartridge could hold up to 8 trillion bytes (terabytes) of uncompressed data.

Uggg could you imagine reading all that data off the tape ;)

7 posted on 05/16/2006 10:10:23 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Or worse imagine cataloging it!
8 posted on 05/16/2006 10:15:17 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: N3WBI3
Well, there is this also:

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 750GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s (The First Perpendicular Recording) Hard Drive - OEM

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Available from NewEgg for $499.99............

Couple of those would make a gret home built TIVO....then back up the videos on the tape cartridges....

I think it is coming.....

9 posted on 05/16/2006 10:55:10 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I wonder how many people have recovered an entire server from tape. I tried once and it failed rather badly.

First, the boot CD made by Veritas wouldn't boot on the server, although it would boot on workstations. Second, there was no alternate method provided by Veritas to do a disaster recovery. The OS had to be reinstalled and reconfigured manually before the tape could be cataloged.

I do all backups to external hard drives now. I have tested disaster recovery with them and it works. I use ASR backups.


10 posted on 05/16/2006 11:02:02 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Disk staging is definatly the way to go for critical backups but in a DR you need the tape..


11 posted on 05/16/2006 11:02:49 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Storytime:

I first heard the term "exabyte" (1000 terrabytes) at a lecture at an HP users group meeting being given by the fellow who was the head of the Superconducting Super Collider that was being built (later abandoned) in Waxahatchie, Texas.

He was describing the projected data needs of the collider, which he said was expected to produce a terrabyte (also a relatively new word to me), per recorded collision. They were planning on backing up this data on offline media, (tape), for later analysis. At the time, I was working in a shop that used 12" 9-track tape reels that recorded at a whopping 6250 bpi.

When the lecture was over, I walked up to him and told him I'd be quite happy do nothing but sell him mag-tape for as long as I could.


6.7GB/in absolutely blows my mind.

12 posted on 05/16/2006 11:21:03 AM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side... We have cookies!)
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I wonder how many people have recovered an entire server from tape. I tried once and it failed rather badly.

I've done it several times. Worst case was on a VAX 8810 running Ultrix. I had to boot off 8" floppies, then load the box from 9-track tape at 6250 bpi. That's just a little over six thousand bits per inch for those not familiar with such low values :-) 

13 posted on 05/16/2006 11:26:01 AM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side... We have cookies!)
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All I'm saying is you don't really have a backup plan unless you have tested a disaster recovery restore. Believing the hype of the software and hardware companies is not a plan.

For home users you can live with backups of your documents and image files. For business servers, it can take days to reinstall and configure the OS if the restore software can't do it.


14 posted on 05/16/2006 11:33:14 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Great. So the 3490's I just got done installing are already obsolete?


15 posted on 05/16/2006 11:35:59 AM PDT by djf (Bedtime story: Once upon a time, they snuck on the boat and threw the tea over. In a land far away..)
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It was a demo, actual products are 5 years or more away....

I need a picture of the 3490 cartridge and ....what is the current storage capacity, I'm sure it is way up since I worked with them in 92.

16 posted on 05/16/2006 12:28:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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17 posted on 05/16/2006 1:07:29 PM PDT by djf (Bedtime story: Once upon a time, they snuck on the boat and threw the tea over. In a land far away..)
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To: djf

Thank you!


18 posted on 05/16/2006 1:13:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: js1138
All I'm saying is you don't really have a backup plan unless you have tested a disaster recovery restore. Believing the hype of the software and hardware companies is not a plan.

Absolutely. This is something I believe in strongly.

My favorite systems as far as disaster recovery was concerned were HP-3000 servers running MPE-V. All you needed to restore a box was the mag-tapes you created with backup. You could pop tape #1 on the tape drive, and boot the box, and it would completely restore everything and give you a brand new box. Sweet. Wish all backup programs worked that way. Boot and restore from media rocks!

19 posted on 05/16/2006 1:18:53 PM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side... We have cookies!)
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I hate to mention this in a Windows hating community, but the Windows Server ASR backup works like a charm. You can always boot with a Windows CD, and then all you need is the ASR floppy that has your disk configuration, and your backup media, whether tape or external hard disk.


20 posted on 05/16/2006 2:28:14 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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