Posted on 05/15/2006 12:33:20 PM PDT by martin_fierro
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I'm shocked, I tell ya. Shocked!
I wonder if they called the execs at the Ponderosa Casino, the only "tobacco-free" casino in Reno?
Oh, wait--they went out of business!
Studies like this that haven't undergone peer review are useless until they've been vetted, and even then - it depends on which publication it was submitted to for peer review.
And I didn't read the article closely, but I didn't see mention of a control group.
No mention of a control group, nor any methodologies, nor anything at all except a scream of fear.
I claim a worthless study, conducted for profit, with a foregone conclusion.
This report on a so-called "study is all over the place...
And the holes in the study are big enough to drive hundreds of semis loaded with smokes through...
First of all, 125 subjects is minuscule; almost a joke.
Where is the explanation of why it totally disagrees with the UN World Health Organization study involving tens of thousands of subjects tracked for 15 or more years?
Where is the methodology? Where is the peer review? Where is the science?
The EPA was excoriated for allowing fake or doctored studies from being used as a basis of anti-smoking laws a long time ago. Looks like they never stopped!
I can't stop laughing at the "bottom line" the anti-smoking welfare system. Full employment for incompetent scientists and their junk science.
$20,000 per subject? WTF?
What I can't believe is that we're actually in agreement on something.
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Another anti smoking hit piece put out with no evidence of the finding explained.
Don't feel too bad.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day...
: )
I stopped going to casinos and drinking all night spending my entire paycheck and passing out with prostitutes because that smoke was getting hazardous to my health.
L O L
Judge Osteen threw out the study in 1999 and recently, the WHO discounted this second hand smoke bs as well.
And yet, the anti's are continually allowed to publish these lies about second hand smoke killing everyone. The media just keeps the Ornl Research swept under the rug as well as the WHO. This is getting to be way out of line!
The World Health Organization actually did a study on secondhand smoke which showed that it doesn't even make people sick, much less kill them. Now, it makes people uncomfortable. They don't like it. I don't like secondhand cigarette smoke myself -- it reeks -- but it doesn't kill. It doesn't. - a quote by Rush Limbaugh
CDC claims 38,000 die from SHS each year. As published in JAMA on April 20,2005; " Excess Deaths Associated With Underweight, Overweight, and Obesity", underweight associated with 33746 deaths per year. Illinois has 4% of US poulation; that is 1,520 deaths per year from SHS and 1,350 deaths per year from Underweight. That works out to be about 4 deaths per day from either cause. If SHS is such a problem that local politicians have to pass laws to solve the problem; what justification do they have for not passing laws to solve the Underweight deaths? I suspect there are death certificates with starvation as cause of death; there are none with SHS as cause of death. Ask your county health
depts. about all of this. - quote by Gary K
DON'T LET THE HEADLINES FOOL YOU
Court throws out challenge to EPA findings on secondhand smoke - (December 2002) - The ruling was based on the highly technical grounds that since the EPA didn't actually enact any new regulations (it merely declared ETS to be a carcinogen without actually adopting any new rules), the court had no jurisdiction to rule in the matter. This court ruling on the EPA report is NOT a stamp of approval for that report. Judge Osteen's criticisms of the EPA report are still completely valid and is accompanied by other experts.
Anything that has Repace's name on it is suspect to begin with.
And what does a physicist know about medical matters?
"If I walk past a smoker, within minutes, I can't breathe. I have to use an inhaler," she said.
OHHHHHHH, (rubbing my forehead)
Woodbury is adamant in her view about the dangers of secondhand smoke. "For every eight smokers that die of smoking, they take one nonsmoker with them. Innocent victims like Dana Reeve," she said.
You'll never take me alive, anti! I'll take as many of you with me as I can!
But, seriously folks, good grief. I'll bet she's the kind that wigs out when they see an UN-LIT cigar in somebody's chops. Geeesh......
I'd sure love to see her produce some proof of this statement.
You and me both. But, you and I know if she did, it would be another load of crap, more than likely.
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