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To: martin_fierro; The Foolkiller; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; ...
What a crock.  How do they get away with these lies?!

Judge Osteen threw out the study in 1999 and recently, the WHO discounted this second hand smoke bs as well.

And yet, the anti's are continually allowed to publish these lies about second hand smoke killing everyone.  The media just keeps the Ornl Research swept under the rug as well as the WHO.  This is getting to be way out of line!

The World Health Organization actually did a study on secondhand smoke which showed that it doesn't even make people sick, much less kill them. Now, it makes people uncomfortable. They don't like it. I don't like secondhand cigarette smoke myself -- it reeks -- but it doesn't kill. It doesn't. - a quote by Rush Limbaugh

CDC claims 38,000 die from SHS each year.  As published in JAMA on April 20,2005; " Excess Deaths Associated With Underweight, Overweight, and Obesity", underweight associated with 33746 deaths per year.  Illinois has 4% of US poulation; that is 1,520 deaths per year from SHS and 1,350 deaths per year from Underweight. That works out to be about 4 deaths per day from either cause. If SHS is such a problem that local politicians have to pass laws to solve the problem; what justification do they have for not passing laws to solve the Underweight deaths? I suspect there are death certificates with starvation as cause of death; there are none with SHS as cause of death. Ask your county health
depts. about all of this.
   - quote by Gary K

DON'T LET THE HEADLINES FOOL YOU
Court throws out challenge to EPA findings on secondhand smoke - (December 2002) - The ruling was based on the highly technical grounds that since the EPA didn't actually enact any new regulations (it merely declared ETS to be a carcinogen without actually adopting any new rules), the court had no jurisdiction to rule in the matter.  This court ruling on the EPA report is NOT a stamp of approval for that report. Judge Osteen's criticisms of the EPA report are still completely valid and is accompanied by other experts.

The Illinois Clean Air Act, banning smoking in public and government buildings and on public transportation has been in effect for over 15 years.  This is not an issue about smoking in public buildings....it is about removing the rights of private businesses...restaurants and bars and smoking outdoors.  Why all the BS?  Just drop it!  Most people don't even understand what these intrusive bans are about and it is being implied that everyone smokes everywhere.  That hasn't been the case for a long, long time.  Get real!!!

15 posted on 05/15/2006 3:15:44 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion

"If I walk past a smoker, within minutes, I can't breathe. I have to use an inhaler," she said.

OHHHHHHH, (rubbing my forehead)

Woodbury is adamant in her view about the dangers of secondhand smoke. "For every eight smokers that die of smoking, they take one nonsmoker with them. Innocent victims like Dana Reeve," she said.


You'll never take me alive, anti! I'll take as many of you with me as I can!

But, seriously folks, good grief. I'll bet she's the kind that wigs out when they see an UN-LIT cigar in somebody's chops. Geeesh......



17 posted on 05/15/2006 6:22:54 PM PDT by 383rr ((those who choose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: SheLion
Someone in Public life needs to get a spine, and tell the idiots doing these bogus "studies" that junk science completely nullifies any validity of ALL scientific studies. When they put out as many of these transparently bogus studies as fact, no one believes any study.

That is what is dangerous. Especially for youth, who see the hypocrisy and then just ignore it when something legitimate is found.
18 posted on 05/15/2006 8:03:11 PM PDT by gidget7 (PC is the huge rock, behind which lies hide!)
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