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Grand jury may consider new charges in Duke case
Raliegh Observer ^ | 5/15/06 | Ben Niolet

Posted on 05/15/2006 7:14:12 AM PDT by pissant

DURHAM - A Durham grand jury is scheduled to meet today, and the session could mean new charges in the investigation of a reported rape at a Duke lacrosse team party.

Two of the team's players were indicted in April on charges of first degree rape, first degree sex offense and first degree kidnapping. They are accused of assaulting an escort service dancer in a bathroom of a house at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd. Their lawyers say the men are innocent, and lawyers representing dozens of team members say that no sex or assault occurred at the March 13 party.

But the woman says she was attacked by three men, and Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong said he has been working on bringing charges against a third person.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN TODAY? If Nifong decides to submit the case, police investigators and possibly other witnesses will try to convince grand jurors in a secret session that the state has probable cause to bring a case forward. Grand jurors will hear only the prosecution's side of the case. The standard required for a true bill of indictment is far lower than the beyond-a-reasonable-doubt standard required for a conviction.

IF INDICTMENTS ARE ISSUED, WHEN WILL THEY BECOME PUBLIC? On April 17, a judge ordered the indictments in the lacrosse case sealed. The names of the players who were indicted were not released until 5 a.m. the next day when the players surrendered at the Durham County jail. If Nifong again requests that the indictments be sealed, the law allows a judge to keep them secret until the person is arrested or appears in court.

WHEN WILL ALL THE EVIDENCE BE REVEALED? State law requires prosecutors to turn over all of their case files to defense lawyers, but nothing requires the evidence to be turned over to the public. In open court hearings, lawyers often discuss some of the evidence, but the state's case may not be revealed until trial. No trial dates have been set. When a report on the DNA testing is complete, Nifong is required by law to turn it over to all 46 members of the lacrosse team who submitted DNA samples.

WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? The cases against Reade William Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J., and Collin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, N.Y., are moving forward. Finnerty has a court date in June. Seligmann is scheduled to appear in court Thursday. His attorney, Kirk Osborn, has filed a series of motions challenging Nifong's handling of the case and asking a judge to bar the prosecutor from further involvement.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; wtf
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To: zaxxon

Notice they got another player who has rich parents. I think they got the top three in terms of wealth.


241 posted on 05/15/2006 10:32:28 AM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: Always Right
Maybe they should indict her boyfriend, since his seamen seems to be the only seamen they found in her.

She had a sailor inside her? I thought this was about students.

242 posted on 05/15/2006 10:33:37 AM PDT by Protagoras ("Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious".... George Orwell)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

Do you know why there is no right to a speedy trial in NC?


243 posted on 05/15/2006 10:33:52 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

I wish no harm on the good people of Durham, but maybe Durham needs to be destroyed (figuratively).
Clean it. Burn the trash. Take control.


244 posted on 05/15/2006 10:34:12 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: cherry
the whole case needs to be thrown out.....

Agreed, but instead, it's expanding.

245 posted on 05/15/2006 10:34:16 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Protagoras

Reminds me of an old Navy joke:

Q: What's long and round and full of seamen?


246 posted on 05/15/2006 10:34:39 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Howlin
These people have friends in high places

Then they may get somewhere in their fight against the DA. If it was just the Average Joe...no way.
247 posted on 05/15/2006 10:35:21 AM PDT by P-40
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To: F.J. Mitchell
As long as DAs possess that immunity, the innocent will suffer.

Of course the flipside to that is an honest DA could be prosecuted by someone who did not like what the DA was doing.
248 posted on 05/15/2006 10:36:34 AM PDT by P-40
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To: Howlin
Now they will destroy him, and probably Durham in the process.

I think you're absolutely right. You don't mess with people's children.

249 posted on 05/15/2006 10:36:38 AM PDT by Publius22
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To: Darlin'

I'm not believing any of this! The stupid media has seen the latest DNA report...why don't they say how many markers were ID'd? Why don't they name the bf? Why won't they INVESTIGATE anything??


250 posted on 05/15/2006 10:36:55 AM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: GAgal

Yeah, but at least Javert had the good sense to throw himself off the bridge. ( I just saw the BW production in January.)

Lord, forgive me for the implication...


251 posted on 05/15/2006 10:37:09 AM PDT by Shelayne (Antique Media--losing value everyday...)
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To: Darlin'

If that nail alledgedly came off during a struggle with her attacker, then why wasn't the same DNA found under the nails that did not come off


I have wondered the same thing.....re the fingernail in the trash...that DNA evidence is contaminated and was not properly handled by LEO....Evans himself dug it out of the trash can and that could account for his supposed DNA on it..


252 posted on 05/15/2006 10:37:43 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: All
I have been trying to figure out how to word this properly but I am getting madder by the minute, so here goes. All this pertains to Reade but could possibly be applied to a lot of the LAX team.

Reade's high school comprises 4 towns, Essex Fells, Roseland,Fairfield,North Caldwell.

Out of approx. 665 students, only 10 are AA.

This is an extremely segregated (affluent)area of Essex county.

The white and black kids here do not hang out together.

This info comes from the parents of students in that school system, not my personal opinion.

All that being said....

These boys go to school with cute skinny little girls. The mindset of young boys is Brittany Spears, Christina A, and Sports Illustrated models.

Now are you going to tell me, they wanted anything to do with a 27 y.o. chunky 150 lb skanky stripper,no matter if she is black or white?

Yes these kids are privileged and probably a bit snobby from what I can determine, if they are anything like their parents. Being athletes,physically fit, and for the most part wealthy, would have no problem at Duke getting any girl they wanted on campus.

I think the whole stripper idea was one or two guys idea to liven up a party. Remember they asked for white strippers, btw.

I think the guys were ticked off by the quality of the girls that showed up and were bored and then probably started making fun of them, as young boys would do, and FA and Kim got pi$$ed. (speculation)

So.... To believe this happened, you have to think the 19-21 y.o. whole lax team members are psychotic rapists, looking for a thrill from an old (to them) woman!

If this came out wrong and I offended anyone, I apologize, but,the area of NC where i grew up, we all got along and hung out together, and this area of NJ amazes me!

253 posted on 05/15/2006 10:37:53 AM PDT by Repub4bush (Congratulations Tony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Jrabbit

Because with the media it is how good they look on TV. Information is a sidebar now.


254 posted on 05/15/2006 10:38:15 AM PDT by JLS
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To: Shelayne; All

Does anyone know if Nifong has children of his own? Hell, does anyone know if there is a woman crazy enough to have married him?


255 posted on 05/15/2006 10:38:53 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: Howlin
Now they will destroy him, and probably Durham in the process.

Durham has destroyed itself. Half the people who were running for mayor and city council had police records. What does that say about the city.

256 posted on 05/15/2006 10:39:23 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I wish no harm on the good people of Durham, but maybe Durham needs to be destroyed (figuratively).
Clean it. Burn the trash. Take control.



I see Durham in the near future renamed Evans, NC.....lol


257 posted on 05/15/2006 10:39:41 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Jrabbit

The ABC article said they had been shown "parts" of the 10 page report. The defense lawyers have indicated that the full report may be missing results, and they will check that when they get the SANE kit/hospital results.


258 posted on 05/15/2006 10:39:51 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: onyx

Nifong is so out of his league but is too stooopid to know it. You'd think someone around that courthouse would have a little "Come to Jesus" meeting with him.


259 posted on 05/15/2006 10:40:21 AM PDT by Darlin' ("You said would I apologize for that?" Bush told him. "The answer is absolutely not.")
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To: GAgal

Doesn't all the discovery have to be turned over by today?? Read somewhere the Defense had to have it by the fifteenth.


260 posted on 05/15/2006 10:41:04 AM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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