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Officials Catch Gator Believed to Have Killed Florida Model
fox news ^ | 5/14/06 | staff

Posted on 05/14/2006 11:25:23 AM PDT by Rebelbase

Excerpted: SUNRISE, Fla. — Wildlife officers captured an alligator Saturday they believe was responsible for fatally attacking a woman while she was out jogging.

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KEYWORDS: alf; elf; peta; wildlife; wildlifealf
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To: Pharmboy
"This was a dreadful, horrible attack...that poor woman."

One of a few 'worst nightmare' scenarios. She could not have imagined going like this. . .

OTOh; wondering what she was thinking.. .that alligators were not in this area (?). . .probably just starting to give it some thought; when it was to late.

Horrible for sure. . .

21 posted on 05/14/2006 11:56:57 AM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal-free. . .)
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To: Larry Lucido
The wolverines are as nasty as alligators.

Only when we're surrounded by people wearing green or red.

Go Blue!

22 posted on 05/14/2006 11:58:10 AM PDT by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking guts, you coward.)
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To: Rebelbase

Poor woman. Has PETA been contacted about the execution of the gator? I worry.


23 posted on 05/14/2006 12:00:13 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Rebelbase
This is a case for CSI:Miami.

It's not the gator.

24 posted on 05/14/2006 12:00:14 PM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: Rebelbase

"Two human arms were found in the gator's stomach but haven't been confirmed as those belonging to the Jimenez"

Is this the OJ jury investigating this case?

otoh, that gator's family will have a heck of a lawsuit if they killed the wrong gator.


25 posted on 05/14/2006 12:04:44 PM PDT by Canedawg (Freedom isn't free.)
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To: Rebelbase

What the FWCC SpokesPerson didn't tell the public is WHY the gators are attacking people. There are a few core reasons for such attacks and they are mostly BAAAAAD management decisions. But those decisions did grow the FWCC as an agency. To bad such decisions caused people to be killed, but "Agency Uber Alles" rules here in Florida.

Reason 1:
The FWCC has insisted on keeping alligators as a "species of special concern". This means that you can't just shoot an alligator that you feel is a threat to you. You must call the FWCC and they will eventually, possibly, do something. Think 'Call 911 - and die'.

But you are calling someone in a green uniform, not blue. Chances are, the "responder" will be green in orientation, too. Their basic faulty premise is that the gator has rights, that gators are soooo intrinsically valuable, and co-equal to us, that we must be very careful before allowing the nice AuthorityPerson to kill a "nuisance gator".

Note that they are not called "dangerous predators".

Reason 2: The citizen's Unalienable Right to defend one's life was destroyed by draconian game laws passed and enforced by the FWCC. The citizen not only risks felony level prison sentences and huge fines, the FWCC's confiscation powers allow them to take vehicles, etc.

The citizen's Unalienable Right to defense is also removed by the ban on carrying firearms on state lands, like canal banks, parks, etc. Please ermember that the model was jogging along a canal bank, but was not armed.

She was rendered mere meat on the table, oops, make that meat on the hoof (Nikes?), for an alligator thanks to the FWCC's refusal to allow the citizens their Second Amendment Right "to keep and bear their private arms".

Reason 3: The FWCC has become the unregulated statewide UberCop, a sort of green storm trooper.

They can break into your home if they think you have violated a game law. Caught and filleted the frong fish? Could be you are now a felon - in which case, prepare to have your door kicked in, your house trashed during the "search for evidence" and then have your bank account frozen, your vehicles confiscated, and your home seized.

All are now "legal", possible, and have happened in Florida.

Welcome to FloriDUH, where the laws and attitudes of the late, unlamented Third Reich are alive and on the law books.

The FWCC runs around Florida in vehicles with "State Wide Law Enforcement" written all over them. There is a message there.

Make sure this does not happen to you in your state. My old colleagues in GangGreen ARE planning this for the rest of America.


26 posted on 05/14/2006 12:05:10 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: cricket

If she was native Floridian, I would assume she knew about gators in the canals...but, perhaps there wasn't one seen near there for a while. I guess someone has to get attacked like this ocassionally for people to use caution.


27 posted on 05/14/2006 12:06:16 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: SE Mom

"They found her arms in the gator's stomach."

I just heard that ANOTHER woman was found dead in a pond, without her arms. (Fox news radio)


28 posted on 05/14/2006 12:06:43 PM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: Criminal Number 18F
Well, the gator had very good taste.

Also Gators taste good. Gator tail is a barbecue goodie.

If there are so many of them around, why do gator tails cost so much?

29 posted on 05/14/2006 12:06:53 PM PDT by capt. norm (W.C. Fields: "Hollywood is the gold cap on a tooth that should have been pulled out years ago.")
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To: GladesGuru

Someone should start feeding the gators Trebled hook Tbones.


30 posted on 05/14/2006 12:09:34 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: Doogle
...good thing gators don't hang around New Jersey. There would be more mobster gone missing and a lot of fat gators.

Not to mention the Jersey shark attacks in 1916.

"Vito......I'm tired of all dis diggin'........jus trow 'im in da creek....."
31 posted on 05/14/2006 12:09:56 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Order of Battle: Sink or capture as Prize, MS Media)
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To: GRRRRR

"Broward County Medical Examiner Dr. Joshua Perper said he thinks the gator attacked Jimenez and dragged her into the canal but killed her before she drowned."

Either Dr. Perper was misquoted, or he has decided to perpetrate(couldn't resist the pun) more GangGreen 'bafflegab' upon the public.

Those dead before entering the water were not drowned - matter of definition.

I do hope that Dr. Perper was misquoted. Otherwise FloriDUH may be brewing it's own variety of medical examiner ala Clinton's Arkansas "Medical Examiner" - which is to say, a rubber stamp to cover up dirty deeds. Oops - make that "dirty deaths".


32 posted on 05/14/2006 12:12:36 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: Rebelbase

I agree.Summers were idylic.Swimming in the lakes,hunting for snakes in the creeks and canals.....In all those yrs i saw lots of gators,but i never had a problem.Unfortunately one friend was attacked when he got a little too close to a females nest.Lost most of his calf muscle but survived.Now another person has been killed?Fox News just said it's gator mating season.That could explain the agression.Another factor may be that there are just too many gators for the available food supply.A controled harvest sounds in order.Gator tail anyone?


33 posted on 05/14/2006 12:14:51 PM PDT by Thombo2
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To: GladesGuru

That should be "wrong" not "frong" fish and I actually do know "too" from "to". I just don't always remember SPELL before POST. Sorry.


34 posted on 05/14/2006 12:16:38 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: radiohead; Rebelbase
I've been jogging past these Wolverines for years but no luck yet.


35 posted on 05/14/2006 12:18:23 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Jim Noble

"It's not the gator."

The thought of a copycat dismemberment and disposal crossed my mind.


36 posted on 05/14/2006 12:24:32 PM PDT by Rebelbase ("Mr. President if democracy is good for Iraq, why not Mexico?" --FReeper, rrrod.)
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To: No Blue States
The only thing that induces fear of man in predators is hunting. The gators are so u afraid of people that they won't even move for a car as they once did. I have had two of the dumb things walk or run under my Rangie this year.

One was 9'6" long and bent a one inch thick steering rod. It also caused some minor damage to the axle/differential housing. Had I been in a compact car instead of the Range Rover, or even a small SUV like a KIA, the d*mn gator might have taken me with it.

Time for the Florida Legislature to allow the citizens to kill dangerous animals on their own, not require some bureaucrat to "intervene".

I hope the dead model's family decides to take a stick to the FWCC Commissioners at their next meeting. It might cause some positive change, it couldn't hurt(except for the Commissioners), and it might give the grieving family some small satisfaction.

Most of all, it might prevent more such needless deaths.
37 posted on 05/14/2006 12:34:08 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: Rebelbase

I thought one of the reports said that she had been seen dangling her feet in the water?

One time, DH and I were visiting a son at his college in Fla. The campus had a swamp with great waterfowl AND alligators. You could see the gators swimming along with their snouts above the water. Being a birdwatcher, I was in heaven. A groundskeeper saw me with my binoculars on a grassy area. He said if I really wanted a good look at the birds to go around to the back of the swamp. He took me to a secluded area (?smart me?) where there were fallen trees, mushy ground and a great close view of the swamp. When I asked about the alligators, he said that they had removed all the ones over 12 feet. Then his shift was over, he wished me good birding and left. It was a perfect birding spot! But as I'm stepping over ?logs? and watching for anything long and moving, it all of a sudden dawned on me that NO ONE knew I was there and that the groundskeeper was off duty! No 12 footers, but isn't a smaller one dangerous, too? So I carefully and slowly got out of there! I never saw any gators, except swimming in the water, but looking back I thought of what a stupid thing I had done!


38 posted on 05/14/2006 12:39:34 PM PDT by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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To: No Blue States
Someone should start feeding the gators Trebled hook Tbones.

Feeding them some 22's between the eye's about 1 to 1 1/2 inches high will sort of put them off their feed.

39 posted on 05/14/2006 12:45:35 PM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: cricket
OTOh; wondering what she was thinking.. .that alligators were not in this area

I drove by the area today on the way to visit mommy. The area is about 30 feet away from a major highway (I-595) right off of SR84. A canal runs paralell to these streets. It looks quite harmless, people run little boats and fish there all the time. Unlike some local canals, this one is trimmed well so you might think you could see any gators in the area and stay away. But I guess not.

I dont really blame the woman, but having said that, I wouldn't be jogging there myself. I stay away from open water, as a longtime Florida resident who has heard 1 too many stories.

The attack must have been horrific, I feel so bad for her, and her family.

40 posted on 05/14/2006 12:52:04 PM PDT by Paradox (Removing all Doubt since 1998!)
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