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Defense Attorneys: Fingernails With DNA Were Never Applied
1 posted on 05/11/2006 9:18:01 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Protect the Bill of Rights,

Remember this?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1630332/posts?page=373#373

I think this is bad news for David Evans


2 posted on 05/11/2006 9:23:35 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: OakOak; Protect the Bill of Rights; maggief; Howlin; mystery-ak; Alia; Neverforget01; Tall_Texan; ..

Howlin will you be so kind as to ping please. Thank you.


3 posted on 05/11/2006 9:23:38 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat

Acrylic nails applied with an adhesive strip....how strong are those strips? Sounds like the nail would pop off rather easily.

AND...by the time the ho picked victims from the photo setup, she knew who lived in the house....of course she's gonna pick one of them....RS and CF have the big bucks....too bad for them.

This entire farce makes me ill!


10 posted on 05/11/2006 9:46:09 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: TexKat
Thanks Tex. Am I reading this correctly?

According to defense attorneys, police found four stick-on acrylic fingernails in a trashcan at 610 Buchanan Street, the house where the party took place. The tissue connected to the possible DNA match was found under one of those fingernails. But defense attorneys said the third player accused lived at the house and it is no surprise that trace amounts of his DNA could be found inside his own trashcan. They also said they don't believe the type of fingernails that were found -- the kind that are applied with an adhesive strip -- actually ripped off during an attack. They don't believe the fingernails were ever applied and they say they have pictures to prove it.

The fingernail was never applied??????Did she throw the nails at the attackers?

15 posted on 05/11/2006 9:58:03 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the DBM)
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To: TexKat

""It was real emotional -- she was crying, my wife was crying. She said that she was sorry she left (outside) the house before my daughter did," the accuser's father said."

I've had an allergy-related cough lately. I'm happy to learn that my gag reflex is as good as ever.


39 posted on 05/12/2006 12:25:27 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: TexKat

Did the guy with the DNA match have fingernail scratch marks on any part of his body? She claims she scratched him during the attack. Did they even check this?


44 posted on 05/12/2006 12:34:47 AM PDT by Shethink13
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To: TexKat

Thanks for the new thread...I was catching up on the old one Reading...posting..reading..posting..reading..posting

Sort of like Miss Prissy in GWTW when she was going to get help for Miss Melanie....taking her own sweet time while the action is somewhere else!


79 posted on 05/12/2006 4:30:13 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: TexKat

Scenario:

Dancer demands $800.00 for dancing at party.

LAX player is holding $800.00 in hand but only shuffles out $400.00 and tells her to get lost.

Dancer takes a swipe at remaining $400.00 and scratches LAX player's hand.

Even a 100% positive DNA "tissue" match only tells us that the two individuals were at the same location. We already knew that.

Hmmmm, maybe the LAX players has some physical injury and should press assault charges on the dancer...


82 posted on 05/12/2006 4:36:24 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: TexKat
They also said they don't believe the type of fingernails that were found -- the kind that are applied with an adhesive strip -- actually ripped off during an attack.

Even if they were applied, "Press on" nails never stay put. Even when they're applied with glue. But being that they were applied with a strip adhesive would make them even less likely to stay in place. "Press on" nails are usually what women put on for a one night event. You can't expect them to last much longer than that. For artifical nails to last they have to be done at a salon and there is much more involved than just sticking them on with glue. Can i get an Amen, ladies?
85 posted on 05/12/2006 4:38:55 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: TexKat; All

someone referred this forensic "exchange" (but couldn't remember the name) in the last couple of days........it is certainly important to the discussion at hand......

II. The exchange principle

Another important concept is that of the “Exchange Principle”. This principle was first articulated by theFrench scientist Edmond Locard and is often called the “Locard Exchange Principle”. Locard believed that when a criminal came into contact with another person or place, small items such as hairs or fibers would beleft by one person and perhaps picked up by the other. The "Locard Exchange Principle" can be stated as"When any two objects come into contact there is always a transfer from one object to the other." To quote Locard: “Wherever he steps, whatever he touches, whatever he leaves, even unconsciously, will serve as asilent witness against him. Not only his fingerprints or his footprints, but his hair, the fibers from his clothes,the glass he breaks, the tool mark he leaves, the paint he scratches, the blood or semen he deposits or collects. All of these and more, bear mute witness against him. This is evidence that does not forget. It is not confusedby the excitement of the moment. It is not absent because human witnesses are. It is factual evidence. Physical evidence cannot be wrong, it cannot perjure itself, it cannot be wholly absent. Only its interpretation can err.Only human failure to find it, study and understand it, can diminish its value." Professor Edmond Locard(1877-1966).

http://faculty.uml.edu/Nelson_Eby/89.215/Assignments/Introduction.pdf


106 posted on 05/12/2006 5:47:14 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: TexKat
Who is representing Kim? Someone is trying to clean up her image. It reminds me of the the rehabilitation of Amber Frye and the visit she paid a visit to the Rocha family. Is that you Gloria?

Kim Roberts, another dancer who performed at the party where the alleged attack took place, paid an emotional visit to the accuser's parents on Thursday.

"It was real emotional -- she was crying, my wife was crying. She said that she was sorry she left (outside) the house before my daughter did," the accuser's father said.


112 posted on 05/12/2006 6:04:34 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: TexKat

Ok to believe her version of events you have to realize she is portraying a struggle for her life where one of the students is chocking her.

1. You are asked to believe when she scratched/clawed her attacker she didn't draw any blood - that would have provided a very DNA rich sample. I believe a full profile/100% match would have been made.

2. The tissue was only found under 1 of the fingernails. Kind of hard for me to imagine in a struggle for her life she would have used only 1 finger to defend herself.

Of course the article does not provide the means to determine if identical material was found underneath all 4 fingernails, but given the use of a secondary testing facility and the importance placed on this case I feel it safe to assume they checked all 4 fingernails


312 posted on 05/12/2006 2:34:13 PM PDT by Jontherocks
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They believe the accuser was painting and applying her nails while at the party.

Must have been a union stripper.

332 posted on 05/12/2006 3:01:23 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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