Rape Accuser Had Photo ID'd Possible DNA Match

NBC CHANNEL 17 ^ | 5/11/06

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

NOT good news.

But if it was a stick on nail and it was found in the bathroom (am I right in thinking a trashcan?) it is possible the nail still had a bit of sticky on the back.

If he picked it up off of the floor, something could have stuck. My, oh my, anything in that trash can could have stuck to residual sticky.

I would ask if she was fighting to breathe and the nail came off, was there any blood on the nail? (Although the sticky on those nails wouldn't be enough to draw blood)

[Hatteras]

Scenario:

Dancer demands $800.00 for dancing at party.

LAX player is holding $800.00 in hand but only shuffles out $400.00 and tells her to get lost.

Dancer takes a swipe at remaining $400.00 and scratches LAX player's hand.

Even a 100% positive DNA "tissue" match only tells us that the two individuals were at the same location. We already knew that.

Hmmmm, maybe the LAX players has some physical injury and should press assault charges on the dancer...

[Jezebelle]

Why didn't the other nails have the same material on them if she was clawing at somebody with them?

This is such a nightmare.

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

Wonder if they are the ones who were able to pull in Bennett for the alumni...

hee hee hee---
I love the smell of Nifong's rotting flesh in the morning.

[uncitizen]

They also said they don't believe the type of fingernails that were found -- the kind that are applied with an adhesive strip -- actually ripped off during an attack.

Even if they were applied, "Press on" nails never stay put. Even when they're applied with glue. But being that they were applied with a strip adhesive would make them even less likely to stay in place. "Press on" nails are usually what women put on for a one night event. You can't expect them to last much longer than that. For artifical nails to last they have to be done at a salon and there is much more involved than just sticking them on with glue. Can i get an Amen, ladies?

[Jezebelle]

Exactly what is Bennett doing?

[cgbg]

Father a K Street lawyer? Lobbyist wife? Nyfong van der Sloot may have just made yet another BIG mistake

From one of my favorite old movies, "The Brotherhood of the Bell".

"I think we will be hearing less and less from you" (Mr. Nyfong).

:-)

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

Did you tell your family "It must be grissle"

LOL!

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

Joel Boyd, a lawyer from Melbourne, Fla., said one of his clients was interested in helping Elmostafa with any legal fees that arose from the arrest.

"My client is a proud Duke alumnus who has a strong interest in protecting the civil liberties of all U.S. citizens/resident aliens and has no connection to the Duke lacrosse team," Boyd wrote in an e-mail message

Sort of restiores my faith in the human condition.

[OakOak]

.. .. See # 31 for the new allegation of the day

Mrs. Murphy stated it as FACT.

[OakOak]

Exactly. A friend had to post the poor guys bail.

For a crime that was confessed to and that someone has been convicted of..

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

If I understand correctly, he was hired by alumni-sort of a watchdog. He is not representing the players, but the intrests of the (?)alumni.

He is watching the process.

[snarkytart]

They were found in the bathroom trashcan.. one reportedly has DNA.

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Unless the nail has blood and some ripped skin under it, how is this good evidence?

The accuser was on the floor of this guys home rolling on his carpet and in his bathroom, she dropped some nails on his bathroom floor and someone threw them in his bathroom trash can.

Still..there is no seminal fluid in or on her. Even though she was at the hospital within 2 hours of the so-called rape. Mangum did not go and change clothes or shower. There should have been some DNA from bodily fluids on or in her.

This case goes against all common sense, but because the lacrosse players are privileged straight white guys, the media want them convicted. Truth be damned.

[snarkytart]

The N&O concludes there was no intimidation of witness (my title). . What a POS Paper.

http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/438757.html
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Honestly Oak, this article is not bad at all.

They were kind of balanced for once, and even ended the article saying the arrest angered the Triangle and the country.

[JLS]

Unless the nail has blood and some ripped skin under it, how is this good evidence?

Good point, but even a better one is that tiny amount of DNA that it picked up in the trash does not match anyone.

Still..there is no seminal fluid in or on her.

We don't know this, do we? There may have been tons of seminal fluid on her. Just no matches with any of the lacrosse players. Given her occupation, it would not surprise me if she were covered in seminal fluid.

[gopheraj]

When the heck did she ever say she left the house before the AV did? Ever?

[TexKat]

Media told to stay off district attorney's floor

Sheriff's Office has 'polite' request

Michael Biesecker and Benjamin Niolet, Staff Writers DURHAM - After weeks in the media spotlight, sheriff's officials told the news media to stay off the floor of the Durham County courthouse on which Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong's office is located.

A visit to the sixth floor of the Durham County Judicial Building by a reporter from The News & Observer on Thursday morning was followed by an e-mail message sent to the newspaper and other media outlets by Maj. Lucy Zastrow of the county Sheriff's Office.

"This is a friendly reminder to everyone who is employed by or representing any media to please stay off the 6th floor of the Judicial Building," Zastrow wrote. "There are no exemptions to this request. This request is in place until further notice."

Zastrow said in an interview that reporters seen on the floor would be asked to leave by a uniformed deputy.

For more than a month, national and regional reporters have flocked to the sixth floor when new developments have surfaced in an investigation into a reported rape at a Duke University lacrosse team party. On April 17, when a grand jury indicted two of the team's players, scores of reporters staked out the sixth floor from 8:30 a.m., when the building opened, until after 5 p.m., when the courthouse closed.

Chuck Kitchen, the Durham County attorney, said Zastrow's e-mail message was never intended to selectively ban media representatives. That would be illegal, he said.

"They don't have that authority," he said of the Sheriff's Office. "The courthouse is a public building, open to the public."

Kitchen said that, by his interpretation, the e-mail message was intended to convey that the media shouldn't congregate in the courthouse halls, blocking access for others, creating a fire hazard or a disturbance. If that were to occur, Kitchen said, a sheriff's deputy could ask members of the media to move.

Nifong said he had talked to Zastrow about keeping television cameras from stalking him every time he leaves his office. Reporters have followed Nifong to a water fountain and to the bathroom.

"It was just shameful," Nifong said. "It makes it a circus up here."

After the county attorney called Zastrow, she clarified her request:

"You're not welcome on the sixth floor. I am trying to be polite about it," Zastrow said. "[The e-mail message] was just asking the media to be courteous. There's a difference between the law and a request. It was never meant to be a threat. If you don't leave when asked, nothing will happen."

[TexKat]

Duke Graduation To Be Handled Differently In Wake Of Lacrosse Rape Investigation - WRAL

DURHAM, N.C. -- More than 4,000 Duke students will graduate this weekend, but this year, the ceremony will be different. Due to the lacrosse rape investigation, there are some strict rules surrounding the event.

[maggief]

http://www.herald-sun.com/durham/4-733878.html



On Thursday, Elmostafa referred all questions to his lawyer, Thomas Loflin, who couldn't be reached for comment.


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[Sacajaweau]

The fact that everyone left after she finished screaming and hopped in the car says there was no rush to cleanup the place. If she said the words "call the cops", they would have cloroxed the bathroom. Nothing happened.

A nail with DNA in a dirty old bathroom basket is not DNA from under her fingernails. It's simply not the same thing.

AND, if your nails fell off, that means you stop scratching?? If she said she scratched them when they examined her, swabs would have would have been taken at that time. She still had her own nails. Wonder how long THEY are??

Where's HER DNA all over the rug....Hair, clothing fibers, her body fluids?? Rape doesn't stop mother nature.