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To: OakOak
They were found in the bathroom trashcan.. one reportedly has DNA.

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Unless the nail has blood and some ripped skin under it, how is this good evidence?

The accuser was on the floor of this guys home rolling on his carpet and in his bathroom, she dropped some nails on his bathroom floor and someone threw them in his bathroom trash can.

Still..there is no seminal fluid in or on her. Even though she was at the hospital within 2 hours of the so-called rape. Mangum did not go and change clothes or shower. There should have been some DNA from bodily fluids on or in her.

This case goes against all common sense, but because the lacrosse players are privileged straight white guys, the media want them convicted. Truth be damned.
93 posted on 05/12/2006 5:10:19 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart
Unless the nail has blood and some ripped skin under it, how is this good evidence?

Good point, but even a better one is that tiny amount of DNA that it picked up in the trash does not match anyone.

Still..there is no seminal fluid in or on her.

We don't know this, do we? There may have been tons of seminal fluid on her. Just no matches with any of the lacrosse players. Given her occupation, it would not surprise me if she were covered in seminal fluid.

95 posted on 05/12/2006 5:19:23 AM PDT by JLS
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To: snarkytart; OakOak; maggief; Howlin; mystery-ak; Neverforget01; Locomotive Breath; Perdogg; Alia; ..
Media told to stay off district attorney's floor

Sheriff's Office has 'polite' request

Michael Biesecker and Benjamin Niolet, Staff Writers DURHAM - After weeks in the media spotlight, sheriff's officials told the news media to stay off the floor of the Durham County courthouse on which Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong's office is located.

A visit to the sixth floor of the Durham County Judicial Building by a reporter from The News & Observer on Thursday morning was followed by an e-mail message sent to the newspaper and other media outlets by Maj. Lucy Zastrow of the county Sheriff's Office.

"This is a friendly reminder to everyone who is employed by or representing any media to please stay off the 6th floor of the Judicial Building," Zastrow wrote. "There are no exemptions to this request. This request is in place until further notice."

Zastrow said in an interview that reporters seen on the floor would be asked to leave by a uniformed deputy.

For more than a month, national and regional reporters have flocked to the sixth floor when new developments have surfaced in an investigation into a reported rape at a Duke University lacrosse team party. On April 17, when a grand jury indicted two of the team's players, scores of reporters staked out the sixth floor from 8:30 a.m., when the building opened, until after 5 p.m., when the courthouse closed.

Chuck Kitchen, the Durham County attorney, said Zastrow's e-mail message was never intended to selectively ban media representatives. That would be illegal, he said.

"They don't have that authority," he said of the Sheriff's Office. "The courthouse is a public building, open to the public."

Kitchen said that, by his interpretation, the e-mail message was intended to convey that the media shouldn't congregate in the courthouse halls, blocking access for others, creating a fire hazard or a disturbance. If that were to occur, Kitchen said, a sheriff's deputy could ask members of the media to move.

Nifong said he had talked to Zastrow about keeping television cameras from stalking him every time he leaves his office. Reporters have followed Nifong to a water fountain and to the bathroom.

"It was just shameful," Nifong said. "It makes it a circus up here."

After the county attorney called Zastrow, she clarified her request:

"You're not welcome on the sixth floor. I am trying to be polite about it," Zastrow said. "[The e-mail message] was just asking the media to be courteous. There's a difference between the law and a request. It was never meant to be a threat. If you don't leave when asked, nothing will happen."

97 posted on 05/12/2006 5:22:37 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: snarkytart

This may be way off the wall, but bear with me. How do we know the "tissue" suddenly referred to is body tissue and not bathroom tissue?

The sticky nail was found in the trash, probably with a bit of sticky "under" it. So, it manages to find a peice of bathroom tissue in the can which might have (no surprise) DNA from one of the occupants.

We have a bunch of stupid, talking heads who may have misinterpreted it.

It may be the nurse in me, but I would think a lab repoort would refer to a "specimen" unless it was a pretty large group of cells. Tissue is more than one cell--a layer or a group of cells.

I googled "Rape Forensic Exam" and the only reference I found to "tissue" was in reference to the victim. i.e. "On closer exam, the tissue had a rolled over appearanec, meaning the wound was in a state of healing and not recent."

References to forensics were scrapings, evidence, material, etc. Never tissue.

I have never read forensic rape report, so I may be wrong. But it is something to think about.


262 posted on 05/12/2006 11:29:14 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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