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Duke accuser initially said 20 men raped her
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12692072/ ^ | 5 8 06 | associated press

Posted on 05/09/2006 1:31:57 AM PDT by freepatriot32

DURHAM, N.C. - Duke underestimated the rape allegations against members of the lacrosse team in part because Durham police initially said the accuser “kept changing her story and was not credible,” according to a university report issued Monday.

The day after the March 13 team party where a 27-year-old black woman claimed she was raped, Durham police told campus officers that “this will blow over,” the report said. It said that the woman initially told police she was raped by 20 white men, then said she was attacked by three.

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TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; duke; dukelax; dukerapecase; durham; lacrosse; lacrosseincident; northcarolina
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To: RecallMoran

Duke


Because Not Everyone Can Get Into Davidson


81 posted on 05/09/2006 12:45:47 PM PDT by don'tbedenied ( D)
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To: Howlin

Sorry, I meant NCSU. I thought that looked wrong. I just think of it as "State".


82 posted on 05/09/2006 12:51:40 PM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: Palladin

I bet Jane Fonda hasn't even accomplished that.


83 posted on 05/09/2006 12:53:27 PM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: darbymcgill
I think the point she's trying to make is that young men in College shouldn't be hiring strippers in the first place.

You are familiar with the old saying about laying down with dogs, right?

My mom had another one: "Nothing good ever happens after midnight."

She was largely quite correct.

L

84 posted on 05/09/2006 12:56:33 PM PDT by Lurker (Anyone who doesn't demand an immediate end to illegal immigration is aiding the flesh trade.)
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To: Lurker

My dad said, "A girl that'll drink will do anything." He was largely correct too.


85 posted on 05/09/2006 12:58:49 PM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: RecallMoran
Thank goodness, eh?

L

86 posted on 05/09/2006 1:05:05 PM PDT by Lurker (Anyone who doesn't demand an immediate end to illegal immigration is aiding the flesh trade.)
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To: NCLaw441

>>
If my son gets into to Duke we will support him fully (after all, it won't be like he turns out to be gay or something)
<<

Yes it will.

:-)


87 posted on 05/09/2006 1:05:15 PM PDT by noblejones (Ben Stein for President, 2008.)
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To: freepatriot32

Maybe she was just clarifying, because the other 17 were consensual.


88 posted on 05/09/2006 1:05:46 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

On Abrams show, he just had a clip of Nifong saying "Even if it's true she first said that, it's not relevant."


89 posted on 05/09/2006 1:16:50 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: RecallMoran

So do I!


90 posted on 05/09/2006 1:17:26 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: RecallMoran; Lurker

Dan Abrams just said about Nifong: "That guy is nuts."


91 posted on 05/09/2006 1:18:33 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

I just came in here to see if you all heard Abrams read Nifong's statement.


92 posted on 05/09/2006 1:22:51 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Howlin

WooHooo
He called him nuts?!

That's too funny, I guess he has totally given up on an interview w/ him now.


93 posted on 05/09/2006 1:23:04 PM PDT by za_claws
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To: Peach

Norm: It is relevant but you have to narrow it down, who said what. Now we're talking about an amorphous statement - who said it. Were there others around who heard the same thing. Was it an indidiual who was conveying it was something that wasn't going to go anywhere by gesture or demeanor.

Abrams: Nifong has the blinders on. We get a new piece of info and he says "I haven't heard anything about 20 opposed to 3". The notion that he's saying it's not relevant means he's not keeping an open mind about this case.

Norm: This is a situation like Susan said. Maybe she said 20 people were involved. Have to narrow down to who heard it and what she meant. Raped by 20 people or only 3.

Michelle: Everybody here is in denial. This is a major development and there's a big difference between 20 and 3. Assuming we can find who said it, it's a major blow and for Nifong to say this isn't relevant, this case gets better for the defense every single day.


94 posted on 05/09/2006 1:25:55 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach

Susan: If Nifong thinks what happened was that a black stripper isn't important, then that's why he's pursuing justice.

Michelle: It sounds like he's not pursuing justice, he's pursuing...

Susan: No, if he thinks she was mishandled because she's not important, he'll go all out.

Abrams: That's realistic but my concern is, how do they explain away what happened in this investigation. Why someone seemed to think she said she was raped by 20 people vs. 3.

Susan: You hang that cop out to dry.

Norm: It's not coming into evidence at all. It's defense spin.

Abrams: It came out of a Duke report.

Norm: Let's talk about the report. They said this is what we could find out in the limited amount of time.

Abrams: It's not in there as a question. It's the first finding of the communciation's issue. Having earlier told Durham Police she was raped by 20 members of the Duke Lacrosse team and later modified to 3 people.

Norm: I saw Bowman backing off of that earlier on this show. Clearly she may have said there were a bunch of people involved.


95 posted on 05/09/2006 1:29:59 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach

Abrams: I can promise you this isn't what the DA wanted in the report. They wanted to hear what Duke did right and what they did wrong, but to put this in what no one else knew about, you have to be ready to deal iwth the response we're seeing.

Commercial and onto the Rove CIA leak case.


96 posted on 05/09/2006 1:30:46 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Howlin

If what she said first isn't relevant (and I won't argue with that), then what she said second (and third, and fourth, . . . ) isn't relevant either.


97 posted on 05/09/2006 1:32:06 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
If what she said first isn't relevant (and I won't argue with that), then what she said second (and third, and fourth, . . . ) isn't relevant either. lol that;\'s funny and too true.... "The Twisted Tale of Shoeless Ho Magnum"
98 posted on 05/09/2006 1:39:30 PM PDT by za_claws
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To: freepatriot32
The woman initially told police she was raped by 20 white men, then said she was attacked by three, the report said.

I wonder if that "20" is written in an official report.

99 posted on 05/09/2006 1:41:54 PM PDT by TankerKC (¿José puede usted ver?)
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To: Howlin
As long he wasn't redundant about it and say he was a 'nutty democrat'.

L

100 posted on 05/09/2006 1:45:21 PM PDT by Lurker (Anyone who doesn't demand an immediate end to illegal immigration is aiding the flesh trade.)
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