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Report: PD Said Accuser Was Not Credible
ABC11TV ^ | 5/8/2006

Posted on 05/08/2006 1:57:24 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath

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A committee said Monday that Duke University administration was slow in addressing the alleged rape involving members of the lacrosse team.

It said key administrators relied too heavily on initial reports from Durham police that the alleged victim "kept changing her story and was not credible."
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(Excerpt) Read more at abclocal.go.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: accusernotcredible; duke; dukelax; durham; exlax; lacrosse; railroaded; rape
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To: Perdogg

Since it was the boys' bathroom how could there possibly not be their DNA on the AV's clothing.


41 posted on 05/08/2006 4:53:11 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: darbymcgill

To be specific, Bissey sees them arrive at 11:50, sees them come go in at 11:55p... Sees them come back out and sees a player leaning into the window talking them back in..
He hears Crystal say her shoe's inside. He notes they BOTH go back in and he sees them come out when they leave.

11:55 is the gold standard for going in..IMO.

Kim Roberts also said they started dancing around Midnight. She's a state's witness (the only sober person according to her) and she says they started their dancing around MIDNIGHT.


42 posted on 05/08/2006 4:53:44 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: maggief

Note, the Durham PD is not saying what time she entered the residence.

Bissey says 11:55
Kim Roberts says they start dancing around Midnight.

The state has to overcome that Large Hurdle because Bissey's statement and Kim Roberts match the timestamps on the photos.

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43 posted on 05/08/2006 4:55:45 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: OakOak

They do have a big problem. The DPD are taking this information from the AV ... WELL before Bissey was aware of a report of "rape" next door.


44 posted on 05/08/2006 4:58:54 PM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn; Locomotive Breath; Perdogg; All


Get a load of this. This story on the AP wire they have the title 'DUKE's RESPONSE TO ALLEGATIONS EXPLAINED'

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/duke_lacrosse;_ylt=A0SOwkfN2V9EzCkBiAis0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

Say what? The story her is she changed her story and she had said 20 white men raped her.

If the lacrosse players had changed their story wildly .. Do you think the title would be "Nifong explains his response"?

I can't believe the Media is not questioning this case. This is such a monumental miscarriage of justice.


45 posted on 05/08/2006 5:01:29 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: maggief

I agree with you BIG-TIME.


Kim Roberts says they started dancing around Midnight
http://ktla.trb.com/news/la-na-lacrosse30apr30,0,5838244.story?coll=ktla-news-1


46 posted on 05/08/2006 5:03:57 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: OakOak; TexKat

Yowzer! From your link ...

The day after the March 13 team party where a 27-year-old black woman claimed she was raped, Durham police told campus officers that "this will blow over," the report said. It said that the woman initially told police she was raped by 20 white men, then said she was attacked by three.

Police told the Duke officers that if any charges were filed, "they would be no more than misdemeanors," the report said.


47 posted on 05/08/2006 5:06:26 PM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: OakOak
I can't believe the Media is not questioning this case. This is such a monumental miscarriage of justice.
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I agree. It is astonishing. Then again, to leftists in the media the truth is not important, its the seriousness of the charge. Also, add to the fact the accused are straight white males from upper upper middle class families.
The media's favorite group to hate.

I love how that article talks about 'WHITE male athletes being arrogant and self indulgent. As if talented black male athletes on campus are any less self indulgent . I recall reading many of articles on black male athletes in colleges across this country in trouble for rape, hitting women, drugs...etc. Guess who is the first to excuse their behavior? That's right, the media and administrators on campus. You know, it's their poor background,so they can't help it.
48 posted on 05/08/2006 5:17:01 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Locomotive Breath
Not only was she changing her story, as did her friend, but this happened off campus and wouldn't be the responsibility of the campus or school at all as I see it.
49 posted on 05/08/2006 5:18:34 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: maggief

I don't even think I'm going out on a limb here.

She has a mental illness. She constantly changes her story. A woman that has met with her family has said on two national TV programs last night and today, that she's recovering from injuries from an assualt with a broomstick.

Her Father has a mental illness. He wildly changes his story every time he tells it.

She was unresponsive in 2002 (and she was drinking, we know that (DWI .19)). The owner of Diamond Girls strip club said that she became unresponsive in 2002 and they couldn't get her to stop dancing and they couldn't get her off the stage. After being carried off-stage she was unresponsive in the back dressing room. When a woman finally got through to her, she stated she needed a ride. The dancer introduced her to a Taxi cab driver at the club and she stole his keys while dancing for him. Her lawyer never asserted (and neither did she) that she was assualted in any way that night, yet she was in the condition she was in at Kroger - Unresponsive.

She was admitted to a Psych unit in 2005. Her license has been suspended 3 times (WRAL). She reported to police that her husband was going to take her into the woods and kill her. She reported being gang-raped and BEATEN by 3 men in 1996, and never showed up for a follow up interview (or didn't provide any more details when the police requested them.).

This woman has a Mental Illness.. There's a strong case for that.


50 posted on 05/08/2006 5:19:28 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: OakOak

<< The story her is she changed her story and she had said 20 white men raped her. >>

What you have to understand is, much like a 5 minute rape can SEEM like a 30 minute period, so also 3 rapists can SEEM like 20 people. Or so we will hear from Wendy Murphy and Nancy Grace et al.


51 posted on 05/08/2006 5:20:26 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Locomotive Breath

I believe you...


52 posted on 05/08/2006 5:21:28 PM PDT by TommyDale (North Carolina looks forward to the disbarring of Mike Nifong.)
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To: snarkytart

You know, it's their poor background,so they can't help it.


You're right. There was a black female lawyer & former prosecutor on Abrams today.. In regard to the Player (Evans) being recharged because of underage drinking at his party (a reintroduction of old charges that had been pleaded) - she said well, they need to take responsibility for their actions and if they aren't held accountable they are just going to do it again.

Now, I'm sure that's not her answer when a Black student of 19 is charged with a minor crime (or recharged). The answer would be how hard his life has been and he needs a break and he has a job or he goes to school or ...

Just like you said.


53 posted on 05/08/2006 5:23:44 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: maggief
Yowzer! From your link ...

The day after the March 13 team party where a 27-year-old black woman claimed she was raped, Durham police told campus officers that "this will blow over," the report said. It said that the woman initially told police she was raped by 20 white men, then said she was attacked by three.

Police told the Duke officers that if any charges were filed, "they would be no more than misdemeanors," the report said.
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OMG!
I cannot believe it. IS there ONE decent MAN on the DPD?
How can they allow this to keep going forward with all they know.
Damn this is outrageous.

I hope the Duke officers wrote everything down and got names of the DPD that said this. I would like to see these cowards in the DPD try to explain this on the witness stand.
I love and support most police, but if this articel is true, how can they live with themselves!!!!!!!!!!!
54 posted on 05/08/2006 5:23:52 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

I think they've known CGM for years as a serial reporter of false crimes. That's why they didn't take it seriously.


55 posted on 05/08/2006 5:26:01 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: A CA Guy

The OFF-CAMPUS part is really under-reported and minimized. That is huge.

The N&O is constantly calling for disciplinary action by Duke.. I think because it's faster than the justice system. If I'm not mistaken.. A columnist in the N&O (Ruth Sheehan) called for the Lacrosse program to be shut down, and within days Duke took action ...


56 posted on 05/08/2006 5:26:44 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: OakOak
I saw that same show. My thought is what should happen to Kim Roberts for busting her parole.
57 posted on 05/08/2006 5:26:59 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: snarkytart

And black star college athletes never ever strut around with a "the world owes me" attitude. And they never party or drink, always go to bed by 11:00, and always treat even the skankiest ho like a china doll.


58 posted on 05/08/2006 5:28:39 PM PDT by stands2reason ("Patriotism is the highest form of dissent." - Mark Steyn)
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To: OakOak

If it was Duke basketball, would they have done the same thing? F NO!

The college is trying to play good neighbors at the expense of students.


59 posted on 05/08/2006 5:28:50 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: OakOak

Everyone is bipolar. Even Nifong.


60 posted on 05/08/2006 5:29:17 PM PDT by stands2reason ("Patriotism is the highest form of dissent." - Mark Steyn)
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