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Duke Rape Case Defense: Throw Out DA Nifong and Photo ID
ABC ^ | May 1, 2006 | CHRIS CUOMO, ERIC AVRAM, and LARA SETRAKIAN

Posted on 05/01/2006 7:51:52 AM PDT by don'tbedenied

Accused Duke lacrosse player Reade Seligmann's attorneys want Durham County District Attorney Mike Nifong thrown off the case.

Today, they filed a legal motion specifically asking for it.

"DA Mike Nifong neglected his duty as a prosecutor to seek the truth and a fair prosecution," the defense's motion reads.

The motions were filed just 24 hours before Nifong's Tuesday election in which he's fighting to keep his seat. Nifong is being challenged by former prosecutor Freda Black and private lawyer Keith Bishop


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: bursonmarsteller; duke; dukelax; durham; ericcharlesknapp; falseallegations; lacrosse; nifong; rape; rapeshieldlaws; sacramento
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To: darbymcgill

I would like to know where Kim was when she made the first 911. Can her location be determined from either police GPS or cell phone company records?


521 posted on 05/02/2006 12:22:55 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: Neverforget01

I never could do word problems in math....if so and so did this and then 4 more people did something else and some ratio is used and then throw in a certain time, hours, minutes, seconds...how long would it take for so and so to do this or that? arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

No way I'm figuring out a rape riddle....nope...can't do it.


522 posted on 05/02/2006 12:23:08 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: Dukie07

Another point is this: the photos were presented to Mangum as people who may have been at the party. But the NTO applied only to the lax players, and the photos were taken as part of that process, so all the photos that were shown were of the players, which means it doesn't matter if she was told they were lax players or not because she was told they were photos of the people believed to be at the party, so they're one and the same thing.


523 posted on 05/02/2006 12:25:32 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Krodg

Hi :-)

Mumbo-jumbo is how it ends up in my brain! I don't do well with conspiracy theories, either. Hopelessly inept.


524 posted on 05/02/2006 12:28:17 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: darbymcgill

Maybe she fell twice, lol?


525 posted on 05/02/2006 12:28:31 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jrabbit
Reporter on Fox is saying there is a 15 minute time frame where RS could have participated in the rape

Participated, got the munchies, called a cab, grabbed a friend and went out for a bite to eat..Suuuuure.

And, his 14-15 calls were to his gf....I think he was hinting that it was suspicious....

Obviously hasn't paid his kid's cell phone bill in a while. Better yet, were they text messages? Reade has remarkable agility..Raping and texting at the same time. Sorry, I'm getting punchy.

I still don't think these wealthy, white, elitests would touch these girls with a 10 foot broom. I think they didn't get the girls they asked for and fought over money..

Now it's payback time.

526 posted on 05/02/2006 12:28:54 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: Jezebelle
Nifong tries to get around all of this dirty dealing by having the line-up presented merely as asking her to ID who was at the party, what she saw them do, and what her interaction with them was. Too clever by half. This is not going to fly.

Just one more example of Nifong's insidiousness and another reason he needs to be kick off this case!

Another reason, which I haven't heard in the MSM, but was brought up by the defense team, is Nifong's decision to meet with the leaders of a radical Muslim hate group when one the defendants has a Jewish surname. I can't being to express how inappropriate I find that!

http://abclocal.go.com/three/wtvd/pdf/050106defensemotion.pdf

527 posted on 05/02/2006 12:30:27 PM PDT by Publius22
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To: Jrabbit
It was cold?

Reporter on Fox is saying there is a 15 minute time frame where RS could have participated in the rape. And, his 14-15 calls were to his gf....I think he was hinting that it was suspicious.


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Reade made eight calls between 12:04 and 12:19 not 14/15.
that would include calling the cab and his girlfriend.

Why is this suspicious??

Do we even know if his girlfriend answered?
Could be the reason for the several calls...he was redialing.
528 posted on 05/02/2006 12:30:35 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: don'tbedenied
It's obvious that the Duke lax team has a number of divisions, each one highly trained and specialized, just look at what they've done: 1) Prevented DNA from appearing anywhere in a 3 on 1, violent, thirty minute gang rape in a small bathroom. clearly super body condoms of some newly created substance were used. 2) Changed the times on the pictures, built a Mission Impossible mask for a Seligman look alike to wear at the ATM machine, and programed cell phones to place outbound calls during the rape. The above was done by the super secret Duke lacrosse evidence suppression, destruction and creation unit. 3) The Duke Lax, KKK unit, named after US Senator and former Grand Kleagle Byrd, has gotten word out to get the black ho. Even now the Duke Lax Byrd-men are hunting down the AV. 4) And of course the powerful duke Lax alumni association took care of the original DNA, carefully replacing the DNA evidence gathered from the AV, with DNA collected form the black fraternity house. This was done in conjunction with the Duke Medical Center, controlled and operated by Duke Lacrosse. 5) Finally in an incredible manouever, after the rape the PR unit persuaded the AV to smile as she left. I propose that Duke lacrosse replace the CIA

This sounds like a Rovian Plot!

I now know Rove is behind it..LOL

529 posted on 05/02/2006 12:30:41 PM PDT by Repub4bush (Congratulations Tony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Jrabbit
lol.. If the accused left the station at 9:00 travelling at 50 mph and the rapist left his home at 10:00pm travelling at 60 mph...who arrived first?

You have me chuckling now. Thanks, I needed that.

530 posted on 05/02/2006 12:32:14 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: Carolinamom

No, nothing from Kim lately.

I also have not seen or heard of one documented threat against Mangum or her family. Why aren't these being turned over to DPD and/or Nifong? It would seem to me that they should be so that DPD can take action, such as putting traps on their phone lines, dusting mail for fingerprints, or doing whatever is available to them investigatively to ascertain who is making these threats and bring such people to justice. But there has been no news of anything happening in that respect. I wonder why.


531 posted on 05/02/2006 12:33:49 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Dukie07; darbymcgill

Apparently she was in front of the house or at least within shouting distance. After the call didn't she shout at the players that she'd called the cops.


532 posted on 05/02/2006 12:38:42 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Jezebelle

>>I also have not seen or heard of one documented threat against Mangum or her family. Why aren't these being turned over to DPD and/or Nifong? It would seem to me that they should be so that DPD can take action, such as putting traps on their phone lines, dusting mail for fingerprints, or doing whatever is available to them investigatively to ascertain who is making these threats and bring such people to justice. But there has been no news of anything happening in that respect. I wonder why.<<


Because they're all big fakers.


533 posted on 05/02/2006 12:39:55 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: darbymcgill

Reade left (according to the cabbie) at 12:14 and was at his dorm at 12:42. That leaves only a 14 minute window.


534 posted on 05/02/2006 12:40:33 PM PDT by LWalk18
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To: Publius22

"Nifong tries to get around all of this dirty dealing by having the line-up presented merely as asking her to ID who was at the party"

So if AV ID'd who was there, why did the police (or detectives or whomever) show up at the dorm trying to find out who was at the party?


535 posted on 05/02/2006 12:41:27 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: Dukie07

Only to the cell site tower location.. from what I understand they didn't do a cellular locate on the call, nor did they ask the caller's name...


536 posted on 05/02/2006 12:41:36 PM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: snarkytart

I never saw that particular Fox reporter dude before....and I thought his claim of 14-15 calls was, to put it nicely, bull hockey. His "RS had a 15 minute time frame to participate" was lame.

Shep is on now, I have to mute when he's on, he causes hives.


537 posted on 05/02/2006 12:42:16 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: maggief

The green Honda belongs to one of the residents of the Buchanan house.

As for the cabbie's comment about the car color, we have never seen a full photo of Kim's car. The photo taken of Mangum just after putting her in it shows a cloudy looking patch on the side. I wonder if there is light gray primer on the front of Kim's car or possibly even white fenders or a hood from a wrecking yard.

Another possibility is language. Mostafa is a foreigner, and may not have his colors right. Here in CA, I have heard people misstate the Spanish name for the color black as "blanco", which means "white". Black is "negro", but I think "blanco" is mistaken for it because of its similarity in sound to "black". The mistake could be as simple as that.


538 posted on 05/02/2006 12:44:39 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: LWalk18

Reade left (according to the cabbie) at 12:14 and was at his dorm at 12:42. That leaves only a 14 minute window.


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The strip show stopped at 12:04am, and Reade called the cab at 12:14am.

That's a ten mintute window, however, Reade made several calls before calling a cab to go back to the dorms.


539 posted on 05/02/2006 12:45:57 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

"mintute"

meat

minute


540 posted on 05/02/2006 12:47:07 PM PDT by snarkytart
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