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Duke Rape Case Defense: Throw Out DA Nifong and Photo ID
ABC ^ | May 1, 2006 | CHRIS CUOMO, ERIC AVRAM, and LARA SETRAKIAN

Posted on 05/01/2006 7:51:52 AM PDT by don'tbedenied

Accused Duke lacrosse player Reade Seligmann's attorneys want Durham County District Attorney Mike Nifong thrown off the case.

Today, they filed a legal motion specifically asking for it.

"DA Mike Nifong neglected his duty as a prosecutor to seek the truth and a fair prosecution," the defense's motion reads.

The motions were filed just 24 hours before Nifong's Tuesday election in which he's fighting to keep his seat. Nifong is being challenged by former prosecutor Freda Black and private lawyer Keith Bishop


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: bursonmarsteller; duke; dukelax; durham; ericcharlesknapp; falseallegations; lacrosse; nifong; rape; rapeshieldlaws; sacramento
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To: Locomotive Breath; xoxoxox

Call me skeptical. I don't understand why xo has to post in riddle. Is it pointing to information or disinformation?


501 posted on 05/02/2006 11:26:45 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: maggief
Maybe he's channeling "Negrodamus".
502 posted on 05/02/2006 11:30:37 AM PDT by don'tbedenied ( D)
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To: maggief; Locomotive Breath; All

I gotta go, but while you guys are discussing Kim and Crystal,
consider this:

The feuding neighbor initially said that the TWO women arrived together. He described them getting out of the same car and he described what they were wearing.

I don't think we should blindly accept that these 2 women didn't know it each other before this night. Kim referred to her twice as her black girlfriend and then Kim or her Lawyer in the Blacked out interviews (before she went public) again called Crystal a friend.

We are going to take the word of a convicted felon with an outstanding warrant for her arrest and a woman that was charged with 8 felonies ?

The Police and the Media took these 2 women at the word too.


503 posted on 05/02/2006 11:35:04 AM PDT by OakOak
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To: maggief; xoxoxox

Has anything he/she posted made any sense? Or led anywhere except down a rabbit hole? Wild goose chase? Is it all just gorilla dust?

Rabbits, geese, gorillas.....maybe I've found a clue!!


ROFL


504 posted on 05/02/2006 11:41:01 AM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: OakOak
The feuding neighbor initially said that the TWO women arrived together. He described them getting out of the same car and he described what they were wearing.

The Defense has said that Kim came before Crystal. If Crystal came with Kim, that would only extend the time in which she was there while Reade was there. Currently, the two were at the house for only about 14 minutes.

505 posted on 05/02/2006 11:48:26 AM PDT by LWalk18
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To: LWalk18; OakOak
I've taken a guess that Mangum arrived after Kim but hopped into Kim's car for a strategy session. It was cold and they were both half clothed so the engine was running for the heat. Neighbor Bissey entered stage right and saw Kim turn off the engine and Mangum and Kim simultaneously get out of Kim's car and inferred that that arrived together when, in fact, he didn't actually seem them drive up together.
506 posted on 05/02/2006 11:54:45 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: maggief

Like I said. Anyone with access to public records could make this stuff up and post it to jerk our chains or to present red herrings.


507 posted on 05/02/2006 11:55:44 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: maggief

The most interesting part is the first paragraph. This is how Nifong thinks he gets around the standard method of presenting photo line-ups. Instead of asking the victim-witness if she sees any of her attackers in a series of photos that may or may not include anybody from the suspect group, the photos are presented to her as people who were there and if she recognizes any of them as being there and what her interaction was with them.

The other problem arises in paragraph 1 on p.2. The victim-witness is told that the photos will be of the people believed to have been at the party. So Mangum knew going into the series of photos that she could basically pick anybody.

She managed to come up with the two wealthiest players. No doubt somebody did some homework for her.

This really, really stinks.


508 posted on 05/02/2006 12:04:02 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: JLS

That was my take on the timing.


509 posted on 05/02/2006 12:07:10 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Howlin

Looking at the streets on a map, that is a good possibility.


510 posted on 05/02/2006 12:07:38 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: maggief

The green Honda belongs to one of the team captains who lives there.


511 posted on 05/02/2006 12:08:50 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Locomotive Breath

Probably right, but he/she keeps things interesting :-)


512 posted on 05/02/2006 12:09:46 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Jezebelle

As part of procedure, would they have looked up who lived in the house & run a check with the school or DMV for registered vehicles?

Then would they have included the car as a matter of course?


513 posted on 05/02/2006 12:12:33 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: LWalk18
If Crystal came with Kim, that would only extend the time in which she was there while Reade was there.

wral

Somewhere between midnight and 12:55 a.m., when officers arrived, the victim told police she'd been raped and beaten for 30 minutes inside the house.

empaphsis mine...

514 posted on 05/02/2006 12:15:17 PM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: maggief; Jrabbit

I have to agree with you. I gave up on xo with the peom lines. Life is too short to play games. (I don't remember how to play chess anyway!) I can't even keep the FACTS we KNOW straight--I thought the guy in the pic had a red shirt..not a red cup. For sure, poetry riddles are wasted on me! lol


515 posted on 05/02/2006 12:15:48 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: Jrabbit

LOL You be funny girl!!< p>

I've been scanning the threads waiting for some news but I just skim over all the mumbo-jumbo. Maybe today's election will shift the focus for a short while.


516 posted on 05/02/2006 12:16:02 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: Jezebelle
She managed to come up with the two wealthiest players. No doubt somebody did some homework for her.

I have to believe Finnerty's arrest in DC had to play a part in his selection in addition to his family's wealth.

But if she was coached, where did she get the bit about the moustache?

517 posted on 05/02/2006 12:16:54 PM PDT by Publius22
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To: Locomotive Breath

It was cold?

Reporter on Fox is saying there is a 15 minute time frame where RS could have participated in the rape. And, his 14-15 calls were to his gf....I think he was hinting that it was suspicious....


518 posted on 05/02/2006 12:17:19 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: don'tbedenied

Oh God....I shouldn't laugh. But I did.


519 posted on 05/02/2006 12:18:24 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Dukie07

My understanding from earlier information was that torso and head photos were taken when the guys went down to DPD for their DNA sample draws in compliance with the NTO. The line-up report states those photos taken pursuant to the NTO DNA sampling were those used for the line-up. Therefore, I conclude the photos Mangum was shown included the torso.

In a normal line-up, distinguishing marks are usually blacked out and all other photos shown in the array have the same spot blacked out so that the victim-witness doesn't ID the suspect based solely on the distinguishing mark. In this case, LE went out of their way to show distinguishing marks.

Nifong tries to get around all of this dirty dealing by having the line-up presented merely as asking her to ID who was at the party, what she saw them do, and what her interaction with them was. Too clever by half. This is not going to fly.


520 posted on 05/02/2006 12:20:00 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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