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Major Firefox 2.0 Feature Dropped ~ a complete rewrite of the browser's bookmarking system,...
BetaNews ^ | Ed Oswald, BetaNews April 28, 2006, 3:47 PM | Ed Oswald, BetaNews

Posted on 04/30/2006 7:42:19 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

While Microsoft has become a favorite target of critics who say the company has dramatically scaled back expectations for Windows Vista, Mozilla's Firefox Web browser is about to join that crowd.

Mozilla has decided to strip out a major new feature from Firefox 2.0 in order to ensure that the update meets a Q3 2006 release target, a post in the browser's developer forum indicated earlier this week. "Places," a complete rewrite of the browser's bookmarking system, will no longer be included in the release.

While Places had made it into the first public alpha release of Firefox 2.0, codenamed "Bon Echo," it had been pulled previously. In announcing the decision, Mozilla's director of engineering Mike Schroepfer said the company wanted to ensure a quality release.

"Rather than rush it to market - we'd prefer to spend the time it takes to get it right," he wrote. Schroepfer said that it was a difficult decision, but it would ensure that when released, Places would work as Mozilla intended it to.

The removal of Places is a blow overall to the Firefox 2.0 release, which was reflected in the responses to Schroepfer's comments.

"mozilla.feedback [the company's feedback newsgroup] has 'I don't see any big differences' repeated frequently over 2.0a1, and it had Places. From your post, Firefox 2.0 sounds like it should be called Firefox 1.6," a user named Matt Nordhoff said.

Schroepfer said that Firefox 2.0 would still offer many improvements over its predecessor even without Places, pointing to enhancements in security, tabbed browsing, RSS, performance, and extensions.

"In order words, all the reasons people love Firefox will get demonstrably better in this release," Schroepfer said. Bon Echo Alpha 2 is set to be available on May 9, he added.


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Hat tip to HardOCP for this.

Anyone else have a problem with Firefox and bookmarks?

1 posted on 04/30/2006 7:42:24 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: N3WBI3; ShadowAce; zeugma

fyi


2 posted on 04/30/2006 7:43:41 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Firefox lost ALL of my bookmarks at one point.

I am open to any suggestions about other browsers, because I'm not too pleased with this one.

3 posted on 04/30/2006 7:44:47 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (What part of 'If you don't vote Republican, DemRats will control our country' don't you understand?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Rather than rush it to market - we'd prefer to spend the time it takes to get it right," he wrote. Schroepfer said that it was a difficult decision, but it would ensure that when released, Places would work as Mozilla intended it to.

Very smart.

4 posted on 04/30/2006 7:46:41 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I have a copy of Bon Echo that didn't automatically bring over one of my saved groups of tabbed windows.

Otherwise, no, save for they don't move right within the Bookmark editing environment and the Bookmarks take a long time to appear with the number I have (in the current Firefox).
5 posted on 04/30/2006 7:46:51 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Darkwolf377

Profile bug. The bookmarks are still there in your profile directory as bookmarks.html.

Losing Places for 2.0 isn't a big deal--if it ain't ready, it ain't ready, and 3.0 will be the version with major changes (Cairo backend, Places, etc)


6 posted on 04/30/2006 7:47:13 AM PDT by Terpfen
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To: Darkwolf377

Try Opera its ok.


7 posted on 04/30/2006 7:47:15 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Dumped the entire thing a while back and went to Maxthon...


8 posted on 04/30/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
After trying a few others with little success, I use the Foxmarks Bookmark Synchronizer extension. It's been pretty good so far.
9 posted on 04/30/2006 7:57:52 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Darkwolf377

http://www.avantbrowser.com/


10 posted on 04/30/2006 8:19:22 AM PDT by WSGilcrest (Mikey likes it!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
No I have never had any issues with the bookmarks. My only problem is Firefox eating up to 180MB of RAM when running. I have been to lazy to look for why it does this, but I do take a performance hit because of it.
11 posted on 04/30/2006 8:53:50 AM PDT by neb52
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"I am open to any suggestions about other browsers, because I'm not too pleased with this one."

IE!


12 posted on 04/30/2006 9:05:56 AM PDT by jdm (Always looking for an opportunity to post a nasty Helen Thomas pic!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I wasn't aware they were looking at rewriting the bookmarks engine for the 2.0 release. I think it's a bit silly of the Moz team to drop this rewrite because they weren't going to make some future "release date".

IMO, they should just work it until it's finished, then release it when it's ready. Who really cares about FireFox's release schedule?

I don't particulary look forward to major releases anyway, as they will most likely hose by extensions in  some way until I fix them for version compatability. FF already does everything I want.

 

13 posted on 04/30/2006 9:40:34 AM PDT by zeugma (Wear patriotic pins and apparel on May 1!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Mozilla has decided to strip out a major new feature from Firefox 2.0 in order to ensure that the update meets a Q3 2006 release target

The difference is MS strips out functionality *and* moves back release dates..

14 posted on 04/30/2006 10:48:06 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: N3WBI3; ShadowAce; Tribune7; frogjerk; Salo; LTCJ; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; amigatec; Fractal Trader; ..

OSS PING

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15 posted on 04/30/2006 10:51:01 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: Darkwolf377

That has happened to me also.


16 posted on 04/30/2006 11:01:30 AM PDT by Crawdad (So the guy says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I haven't personally, but troubles with bookmarks is one of the single biggest long running complaints on their "help" forum.


17 posted on 04/30/2006 11:46:01 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. ©)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Addenda:

EVERY Mozilla user needs to check this out:

http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/


18 posted on 04/30/2006 11:48:19 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. ©)
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To: WSGilcrest

Avant Browser is the best there is and I have tried them all. I use it all the time and have had no problems.


19 posted on 04/30/2006 12:05:42 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: JoJo Gunn

Darn. I was all excited, then discovered it was a windows program.


20 posted on 04/30/2006 1:22:06 PM PDT by zeugma (Wear patriotic pins and apparel on May 1!)
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