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Lacrosse players face old charges (Nifong retaliates against Duke Lax)
News & Observer ^ | April 25, 2006 | Benjamin Niolet and Joseph Neff

Posted on 04/25/2006 2:34:48 AM PDT by abb

DURHAM - District Attorney Mike Nifong plans to reinstate misdemeanor charges against a half-dozen Duke lacrosse players, saying a March 13 party where a woman reported a rape broke the deals that the players made with prosecutors.

Nifong's decision could affect players who, before the party, had entered agreements in which prosecutors would dismiss the cases if the players performed community service and stayed out of trouble for six months or a year. Among the first to have his charges reinstated was David Evans, one of the team captains who lived at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd., the site of the party in which lacrosse players hired two women from escort services to dance. One of the women told police that she was raped by three men in a bathroom.

Two players, Collin Finnerty, 19, and Reade William Seligmann, 20, were charged last week with first-degree rape, first-degree sex offense and first-degree kidnapping. Their attorneys say the men are innocent.

On Monday, an attorney for Seligmann filed a motion seeking information that would help attack the credibility of the woman, the only person, according to the defense filing, who says a rape occurred. The motion seeks information about the woman, including criminal charges, mental and emotional problems the woman has suffered as well as social services, probation, child protective services and victim's advocacy records.

Today, Finnerty is due in a Washington court where prosecutors in an assault charge are considering whether to revoke a deferred prosecution agreement similar to those affecting other players in Durham.

According to court records, 16 players were charged in the past three years with misdemeanor charges in Durham including noise violations, public urination and alcohol violations. The deals placed the men on probation for either six months or a year.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; moronicda; nifong; vengefulidiot
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To: abb

This monkey,KingFong, has gone bananas.


121 posted on 04/25/2006 8:15:28 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Hanging or firing squad, was not deemed cruel or inhumane execution by writers of the Constitution.)
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To: Mrs.Liberty
"And if hiring strippers is an illegal act, should being a stripper be illegal?"

Maybe it's like sex: legal between consenting adults, but you can't pay for it, or it's illegal!

122 posted on 04/25/2006 8:16:10 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: TommyDale

Which leads me to my next question--Did they commit a crime by being in the house?


123 posted on 04/25/2006 8:16:25 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: Neverforget01

Yes, technically. If alcohol was being served to underage drinkers, then anyone there is "contributing to the delinquency of a minor", etc.


124 posted on 04/25/2006 8:17:29 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: TommyDale

No kidding?? So my college age daughter who doesn't drink is committing a crime by being at a party where anyone underage is drinking?


125 posted on 04/25/2006 8:19:21 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: maggief

A rational white man would scream at the sight of her, on the street.


126 posted on 04/25/2006 8:19:48 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Hanging or firing squad, was not deemed cruel or inhumane execution by writers of the Constitution.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Was it stupid? Yes.

Not all the boys were even at this party. Some of them *may* have been stupid. Some of them may have been in the wrong place at the wrong time. Some of them weren't even there.

127 posted on 04/25/2006 8:20:22 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Neverforget01

And because of this infraction alone, IF THEY ARE PROVEN TO HAVE BEEN PRESENT, then they have violated the law. A minor violation, certainly not a felony, but the law was broken by having alcohol in the presence of minors. All that aside, I think the DA using that as an extortion against the guys as an attempt to get information, is unethical and immoral.


128 posted on 04/25/2006 8:21:08 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: TommyDale

hiring those fugly strippers should be illegal.


129 posted on 04/25/2006 8:21:48 AM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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To: Neverforget01

I don't pretend to know all the laws in all the states, but I would think she is taking a chance.


130 posted on 04/25/2006 8:21:55 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: TommyDale

Can that be?--I have alcohol in my home and I have kids. How can they charge anyone but the three captains (who lease the house) with serving?


131 posted on 04/25/2006 8:23:13 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: TommyDale
Maybe it's like sex: legal between consenting adults, but you can't pay for it, or it's illegal!

OMG - I've been having illegal sex with my wife of 20 years and 2 kids to prove it.

132 posted on 04/25/2006 8:24:05 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: ladyjane

True--just speaking generalities. The point being regardless of who was at the party, who drank, who hired the stripper--it happens with boys regardless of how we raise them.


133 posted on 04/25/2006 8:24:49 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Mrs.Liberty
"And if hiring strippers is an illegal act, should being a stripper be illegal?"

You ask a very interesting question. Have you ever noticed that individuals are often charged and convicted for having porn on their computers but NEVER do you hear of the porn sites who sell the porn being charged?

The sellers have big $ to fight any charges. The individuals do not so that the prosecutors stay away from the sellers.

It's always about $ or lack thereof.

134 posted on 04/25/2006 8:25:45 AM PDT by El Gran Salseron (The FR Canteen's Resident Equal Opportunity Male Chauvinist Pig! :-))
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To: ladyjane
I should add: if you want to talk about stupid, let's talk about getting pregnant with someone other than your husband, using drugs, and choosing a career as a stripper. That is stupid.

Other examples of stupid - buying a house in Durham right now and betting that Duke is going to get acceptances from all their A list applicants.

The harm this DA has done to Durham, Duke and NC is unmeasurable.
135 posted on 04/25/2006 8:27:24 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: TommyDale

Let me get this straight...Does this hold true for a parent drinking in front of a minor child?

I guess I am asking unless they did a blood alcohol level on them, they cannot prove the minors had been drinking (unless someone told). Sure, it is a valid assumption, but would that assumption carry weight in court? If one of them was of age and there is no LEGAL proof the others were drinking, it is still an infraction?


136 posted on 04/25/2006 8:29:09 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Hopefully a lot of young guys will learn a lesson.


137 posted on 04/25/2006 8:29:31 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: ladyjane

I agree with you 100% I guess in my roundabout way, I was trying to say apples and oranges, LOL!


138 posted on 04/25/2006 8:31:06 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Let me get this straight...Does this hold true for a parent drinking in front of a minor child?

Uh Oh . I think I've been contributing to the delinquency of minors for years!

139 posted on 04/25/2006 8:31:24 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Good point. It seems like an empty threat if no proof of underage drinking exists... but we don't know what the three captains who live there admitted in their statements of Mar. 14.


140 posted on 04/25/2006 8:32:38 AM PDT by GAgal
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