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Lacrosse players face old charges (Nifong retaliates against Duke Lax)
News & Observer ^ | April 25, 2006 | Benjamin Niolet and Joseph Neff

Posted on 04/25/2006 2:34:48 AM PDT by abb

DURHAM - District Attorney Mike Nifong plans to reinstate misdemeanor charges against a half-dozen Duke lacrosse players, saying a March 13 party where a woman reported a rape broke the deals that the players made with prosecutors.

Nifong's decision could affect players who, before the party, had entered agreements in which prosecutors would dismiss the cases if the players performed community service and stayed out of trouble for six months or a year. Among the first to have his charges reinstated was David Evans, one of the team captains who lived at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd., the site of the party in which lacrosse players hired two women from escort services to dance. One of the women told police that she was raped by three men in a bathroom.

Two players, Collin Finnerty, 19, and Reade William Seligmann, 20, were charged last week with first-degree rape, first-degree sex offense and first-degree kidnapping. Their attorneys say the men are innocent.

On Monday, an attorney for Seligmann filed a motion seeking information that would help attack the credibility of the woman, the only person, according to the defense filing, who says a rape occurred. The motion seeks information about the woman, including criminal charges, mental and emotional problems the woman has suffered as well as social services, probation, child protective services and victim's advocacy records.

Today, Finnerty is due in a Washington court where prosecutors in an assault charge are considering whether to revoke a deferred prosecution agreement similar to those affecting other players in Durham.

According to court records, 16 players were charged in the past three years with misdemeanor charges in Durham including noise violations, public urination and alcohol violations. The deals placed the men on probation for either six months or a year.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; moronicda; nifong; vengefulidiot
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To: Howlin

Yes, sounds like two others units to me as well.


1,181 posted on 04/26/2006 9:19:34 PM PDT by Publius22
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To: Publius22
He didn't even give her full address. Perhaps this wasn't the first time the police checked on CM's "younguns." Otherwise there are more transmissions which haven't been released.

I thought CM was still passed out during this time frame. How would this policeman know about 'younguns' on Charles Street? VERY interesting...

1,182 posted on 04/26/2006 9:22:11 PM PDT by Carling (It's Danny, Sir)
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To: Carling

This is at 2:12 am, so she must be awake then


1,183 posted on 04/26/2006 9:26:17 PM PDT by za_claws
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To: Carling

This is at 2:12 am, so she must be awake then


1,184 posted on 04/26/2006 9:26:19 PM PDT by za_claws
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To: Howlin

Tucker was falsely accused of rape himself. I would expect him to have the most insight on this case.


1,185 posted on 04/26/2006 9:26:31 PM PDT by Carling (It's Danny, Sir)
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To: El Gran Salseron

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He can offern her immunity to testify and that gets her off the hook for any of her criminal activites like falsely accusing.
<<

Uh, no. You can't get immunity to then commit a crime, which her testifying in court would be.


1,186 posted on 04/26/2006 9:27:32 PM PDT by noblejones (Ben Stein for President, 2008.)
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To: za_claws

Sir John was born and raised in the South.


1,187 posted on 04/26/2006 9:34:26 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

:) there goes my theory.


1,188 posted on 04/26/2006 9:37:24 PM PDT by za_claws
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To: Howlin

Here's a better version after listening to it with others' proposals. At first I thought the officer was called Big Baby - a Glen Davis look-alike? but I think it is Big Daddy.



Starting Date Tuesday March 14, 2006 at 12:58:07 AM: [radio static]

12:58:10 AM “I’m in the alley, it’s about a half block down from where you are”

12:58:19 AM “I’m standing right here on the sidewalk, actually on Buchanan, at uh, 610, right now”

12:58:28 AM “…walk up there and walk down, but these kids -- they’ve already left”

12:58:39 AM [radio static]

12:58:43 AM “610, uh, Buchanan, but there’s nobody here, and they’ve all already left”

12:58:52 AM “Sent two other units out, then we’ll do a little knock and talk, see if anyone’s home”

1:33:55 AM “She -- she’s breathing and appears to be fine, she’s not in distress, she’s just passed out drunk “

2:12:08 AM “Uh, um, yeah call and see if you can’t get somebody close to Charles Street to ride by there and check on them young ‘uns”

2:37:07 AM “She’s uh, on the way to Duke now, and they’re going to get a SANE nurse and scrub a report, and that, uh you know see where we are, once uh…” [different voice:] “Allright, caught up...303” [original voice:] “That’s your job, Big Daddy”

2:39:03 AM “Uh the one that we talked to at the Kroger knew her?” [a different voice:] “Quite possibly … [incomprehensible]”

Ending Date Tuesday March 14, 2006 at 2:39:15


1,189 posted on 04/26/2006 9:39:24 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

What is “Allright, caught up...303” mean?


1,190 posted on 04/26/2006 9:48:17 PM PDT by za_claws
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To: za_claws

could be the patrol number


1,191 posted on 04/26/2006 9:50:39 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
and scrub a report

I'm positive it's start the report.

1,192 posted on 04/26/2006 10:01:40 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

You're right, and I reposted the transcript here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1622240/posts?page=4#4


1,193 posted on 04/26/2006 10:07:53 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: don'tbedenied

Do not forget Seligmann's taxicab companion. The defense has been smart not to release any information regarding his identity. He should be able to corroborate much of Seligman's alibi.


1,194 posted on 04/26/2006 10:11:13 PM PDT by writmeister
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To: abb
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Hannity's jumped on this with all four feet and on our side."

what's "our" side?.....I thought we wanted the truth, not just winning the argument...

1,195 posted on 04/26/2006 10:25:25 PM PDT by cherry
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To: mystery-ak
".....the AV changes her story once again to match the evidence"

I think I mentioned a few weeks ago that some instrument might have been used, and that is why there is no DNA.....I swear, its like the DA or AV is reading this board to come up with this stuff....

Of course, I am no expert but I would asssume that using a broom would leave definate forensic evidence, wouldn't it?

1,196 posted on 04/26/2006 10:30:32 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

I think there was DNA....it just didn't match any LAX players..


1,197 posted on 04/26/2006 10:50:44 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: cherry
Of course, I am no expert but I would asssume that using a broom would leave definate forensic evidence, wouldn't it?

I would think so, if it happened the way the AV's father lates her latest version. The prosecution has not attempted to seize the broom as evidence, and sodomy charges were not filed. It's highly doubtful she mentioned a broom to the DA.

1,198 posted on 04/26/2006 10:52:10 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H
Correction: "...if it happened the way the AV's father relates her latest version."
1,199 posted on 04/26/2006 10:54:32 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Jrabbit

Are you listening to Wendy?

She's saying that 'the rumor' is out there that they are "dangling" money in front of her to get off.

She said 99 percent of all cases indicted are guilty?


1,200 posted on 04/26/2006 11:05:43 PM PDT by Howlin
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