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Lacrosse players face old charges (Nifong retaliates against Duke Lax)
News & Observer ^ | April 25, 2006 | Benjamin Niolet and Joseph Neff

Posted on 04/25/2006 2:34:48 AM PDT by abb

DURHAM - District Attorney Mike Nifong plans to reinstate misdemeanor charges against a half-dozen Duke lacrosse players, saying a March 13 party where a woman reported a rape broke the deals that the players made with prosecutors.

Nifong's decision could affect players who, before the party, had entered agreements in which prosecutors would dismiss the cases if the players performed community service and stayed out of trouble for six months or a year. Among the first to have his charges reinstated was David Evans, one of the team captains who lived at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd., the site of the party in which lacrosse players hired two women from escort services to dance. One of the women told police that she was raped by three men in a bathroom.

Two players, Collin Finnerty, 19, and Reade William Seligmann, 20, were charged last week with first-degree rape, first-degree sex offense and first-degree kidnapping. Their attorneys say the men are innocent.

On Monday, an attorney for Seligmann filed a motion seeking information that would help attack the credibility of the woman, the only person, according to the defense filing, who says a rape occurred. The motion seeks information about the woman, including criminal charges, mental and emotional problems the woman has suffered as well as social services, probation, child protective services and victim's advocacy records.

Today, Finnerty is due in a Washington court where prosecutors in an assault charge are considering whether to revoke a deferred prosecution agreement similar to those affecting other players in Durham.

According to court records, 16 players were charged in the past three years with misdemeanor charges in Durham including noise violations, public urination and alcohol violations. The deals placed the men on probation for either six months or a year.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; moronicda; nifong; vengefulidiot
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To: bvw
And my sentences work, because I write them to get into people's minds.

Satan works to get into our minds too. You have never posted a coherent thought since you've been here.

1,061 posted on 04/26/2006 6:27:25 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: TexKat

I assume there is still some radio transmission missing. Where is the police officer saying that she claims to have been raped?


1,062 posted on 04/26/2006 6:28:28 PM PDT by Publius22
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To: TexKat
Just saw Gloria Allred take a beating on Hannity & Colmes. Brought up the new broom allegation and the problems it presents for the DA.

Hannity, Mark Furman, and another defense attorney on the panel really hit back hard when Allred criticized the defense for trying the case in public. Said the DA started it, and mentioned the 70 interviews/public statements. Gloria looked rattled at the end.

Show repeats at 02:00 Eastern on Fox. Check your local cable or satellite listing for channel:)

1,063 posted on 04/26/2006 6:29:53 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

Saw most of that, too, Ken. Must see TV. Hannity's jumped on this with all four feet and on our side...


1,064 posted on 04/26/2006 6:31:14 PM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: abb

It's not that I mind you having a ping list, I just don't think that's the way it's done.


1,065 posted on 04/26/2006 6:33:20 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: Publius22
I assume there is still some radio transmission missing. Where is the police officer saying that she claims to have been raped?

If you listen closely the officer says something about sending someone over to see about the children and then states that he is taking the complaining witness to Duke Hospital to be seen by a SANE.

So the complaining witness or Kim Roberts evidently had to tell the officer about children that needed to be attended to.

So is this the reason for the cry of rape as some have been saying.

1,066 posted on 04/26/2006 6:33:47 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Ken H
Just saw Gloria Allred take a beating

Oh great, I love it when that happens.

1,067 posted on 04/26/2006 6:35:47 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat

I was under the impression that they had gone to the Kroger first.


You were?.....I thought it was established early that they went to the house first.


1,068 posted on 04/26/2006 6:36:50 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Krodg

Yes, yes. Remember -- I'm in your mind, Krodg. Very tough to post coherent thoughts while there too. You of all poeple know how that is.


1,069 posted on 04/26/2006 6:37:08 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Ken H

Brought up the new broom allegation and the problems it presents for the DA.


Missed it.....what new broom allegation?...(do I want to know?)


1,070 posted on 04/26/2006 6:38:03 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: TexKat
At one point he asks if the girl at Kroger knew CM, which means that he wasn't at Kroger at that moment. I guess they were at the psych ward/drug rehab center/drunk tank when he made those last transmissions.

I still don't have an understanding of when and where CM nade the rape allegation.

1,071 posted on 04/26/2006 6:38:36 PM PDT by Publius22
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To: TexKat

If you listen closely the officer says something about sending someone over to see about the children and then states that he is taking the complaining witness to Duke Hospital to be seen by a SANE.

So the complaining witness or Kim Roberts evidently had to tell the officer about children that needed to be attended to.



Now wait a minute.....Whose children...Kim has stated several times that she has never met the AV until that night...how did she know she had kids?.......or was it Kim's kids they are referring to?


1,072 posted on 04/26/2006 6:40:14 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: bvw
So not only did you not go to Duke, you're the only one you know who hasn't been to college. Your nephew is not posting here. If he did I'm sure he'd write a coherent sentence. Do you think he would have been just as successful without the Duke education you mock? Your other relations are not posting here, if they went to those other good schools, then I'm sure they'd write coherent sentences. Before you mock the rules of grammar, sentence construction and logical thought, prove that you know them and are consciously ignoring them rather than not using them because you don't know them.
1,073 posted on 04/26/2006 6:42:46 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: mystery-ak

have you listened to the transmission?


1,074 posted on 04/26/2006 6:44:02 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat
Somehow I must have missed that the police went to the Buchanan address first before going to the Kroger.

Yes, supposedly the cops were there from 12:55 to 1:06.. The recording dispels any rumors that the cops were off on their times.... 12:58 "i'm on the sidewalk in front of 610", then "i'm gonna do a knock and talk"... it's very reasonable to think they went to the door and knocked, no one answered so they left... about 1:06...

this does nothing but solidify the times for kim's call at 12:53 and the CAB #2 arriving and leaving before 12:55ish..

now that the cabbie is saying 12:50ish instead of 1:07, we are pretty locked in for that time frame...

this also fits the bissey time line as well..

I'm working on matching the bissey statement with what the 12:41 pic being an arrival instead of a departure... I don't think it will work.. but I'll get back to you when I'm done...

1,075 posted on 04/26/2006 6:44:11 PM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: Locomotive Breath

What is that saying?... "A legend in his own mind"


1,076 posted on 04/26/2006 6:45:50 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: darbymcgill

What is your take on the officer's statement about sending someone over to check on the children?


1,077 posted on 04/26/2006 6:47:32 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Locomotive Breath

LB, has anyone found a news story besides the early report on FoxNews about the one team captain having the misdemeanor charges reinstated?


1,078 posted on 04/26/2006 6:48:06 PM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: darbymcgill

A 12:41 arrival doesn't work at all. Four minute dance, and 911 call @ 12:55 only gives 11 minutes.


1,079 posted on 04/26/2006 6:48:14 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: Dukie07

I meant 3 minute dance.... okay, my math was off... but you get my drift! (Note to self: Always double-check the numbers.)


1,080 posted on 04/26/2006 6:49:53 PM PDT by Dukie07
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