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2nd DNA results out until May 15
Herald-Sun ^ | Apr 23, 2006 | KELLY HINCHCLIFFE

Posted on 04/23/2006 8:52:59 AM PDT by TexKat

DURHAM -- Results from the second round of DNA tests in connection with the Duke lacrosse rape investigation will not likely be available before May 15, District Attorney Mike Nifong said Saturday.

Nifong also denied an allegation by some defense attorneys that the second exotic dancer at the March 13 party where the rape allegedly occurred received special treatment from Nifong's office so she'd cooperate with the prosecutor.

Kim Roberts, 31, was arrested March 22 -- eight days after the lacrosse party -- on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000.

The same day a grand jury indicted lacrosse players Reade Seligmann and Collin Finnerty, a judge agreed to a change so that Roberts would no longer have to pay a 15 percent fee to a bonding agent. Nifong signed a document saying he would not oppose the change.

Soon after the rape allegation was made, Roberts told defense attorneys that she doubted the story of her colleague who told police she was dragged into a bathroom and raped. But in an interview last week with the Associated Press, Roberts said she thinks some players -- she's not sure which ones -- are guilty.

"It seems she is receiving very favorable financial treatment [from prosecutors] for what she is now saying," said Bill Thomas, a defense attorney for one of the lacrosse players who has not been indicted.

Nifong said Saturday that wasn't his motive in agreeing to change Roberts' bond from secured to unsecured.

"It's consistent with local bonding policy," Nifong said, when asked why he supported the change.

Nifong, who faces two challengers in the May 2 Democratic primary, attended a meet-and-greet with supporters Saturday at Joe & Jo's Downtown Restaurant and Pub, where he fielded a few questions from The Herald-Sun.

Nifong ordered the second round of DNA tests from a private lab after initial tests by the SBI crime lab in Raleigh failed to find DNA from any of 46 lacrosse players tested on or in the accuser, nor any of her DNA in the bathroom in which she said she was raped, sodomized, beaten and strangled for 30 minutes by three men.

Some defense attorneys had said they expected the new DNA test results last week.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelacrosse; dukelax; durhamnc; nifong; rape; stripper
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To: darbymcgill

Police logs show that the woman was taken to the Duke hospital at 2:31 a.m., after a stop at a substance-abuse center, and that she claimed she had been raped.

As Gomer would say..... Surprise, Surprise, Surprise...
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Right there it is.
that is why she claimed rape. She did not want to be in a detox center or caught with drugs in her system.


341 posted on 04/23/2006 6:51:19 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Locomotive Breath

LOL! Umm, no thanks. I'll leave that to the DA :)


342 posted on 04/23/2006 6:52:26 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: darbymcgill

"woman was taken to the Duke hospital at 2:31 a.m., after a stop at a substance-abuse center"

I thought she was taken to a psychiatric clinic?? Is that the same as a substance-abuse center?


343 posted on 04/23/2006 6:52:43 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: sissyjane

Prissy Bissey, the overly observant neighbor.


344 posted on 04/23/2006 6:54:47 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: darbymcgill
So if she called the cops before she sped off, then that means that CAB #2 had to arrive at or a bit after 12:53, not before as I speculated earlier. Or (doubtful) everyone hid when they found out the cops were coming, she left, then the cops came at 12:55 and left at 1:06, at which time the 20 guys reappeared and Kim, still P.O'd comes back about the time CAB #2 arrives at 1:07 to yell some more at those still hanging around, one of which was the guy who said "she's just a stripper"... Doesn't really make sense, but what else about this case makes sense... That would make more sense though about interval between first leaving and arriving at Kroger's.

I had the same reaction to this info...confusion. Kim called 911, then told the players that she called, and everyone cleared out of there in the following 2 minutes. Could the police have arrived later than 12:55?

345 posted on 04/23/2006 6:55:04 PM PDT by Publius22
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To: snarkytart
Right there it is. that is why she claimed rape. She did not want to be in a detox center or caught with drugs in her system.

I think we have a winner!

346 posted on 04/23/2006 6:57:34 PM PDT by Publius22
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To: Dukie07
I think if Nifong wins he'll have accomplished his objective and will find an excuse to drop this quickly meanwhile making certain that the part of Durham that voted him in thinks it's because of a "technicality". Nifong will dump Mangum and Roberts over the side in a heartbeat. He'll then hope everyone will have forgotten about it by the time of the next election.

If Nifong loses, I can't predict what suicidally stupid thing he'd do between now and the time his successor takes office.
347 posted on 04/23/2006 6:58:36 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Jrabbit

Someone else here called him neighbor Bisseybody and I think that's perfect.


348 posted on 04/23/2006 6:59:49 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath

LOL

Yes, perfect!


349 posted on 04/23/2006 7:00:47 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: Publius22
I've been saying all along that Durham social services is probably trying to take Mangum's kids away (maybe the father wants custody?), and she did this to avoid that.

I can't imagine that DSS is not after both Mangum and Roberts. If they're not, they should be.
350 posted on 04/23/2006 7:01:50 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Howlin
I think she could take at least a few of them!

Come on Howlin. Time to come back down to Earth. LOL! Kimmy is a scary girl, but not something a full grown adult male would really be afraid of. Well, most of them.

These boys are real athletes. All of them. I am 44, and I keep thinking about that song by Toby Keith..."There was a time, when I was in my prime..."

351 posted on 04/23/2006 7:02:46 PM PDT by NeonKnight (We don't believe you, you need more people.)
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To: Publius22

I wonder why Bissey hasn't given any reports of players leaving the scene. After all that had happened, you'd think he might have noticed.


352 posted on 04/23/2006 7:03:04 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: snarkytart


Right there it is.
that is why she claimed rape. She did not want to be in a detox center or caught with drugs in her system.


I think you are on to something....but wouldn't the hospital run a tox screen?


353 posted on 04/23/2006 7:05:45 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Locomotive Breath

I wonder when Nifong has to relinquish his DA title if he losing in the upcoming primary?


354 posted on 04/23/2006 7:07:29 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: darbymcgill

"So if she called the cops before she sped off, then that means that CAB #2 had to arrive at or a bit after 12:53, not before as I speculated earlier."

Why? Did the driver say that he didn't see the women? Isn't it possible that they were still there?


355 posted on 04/23/2006 7:09:37 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: snarkytart

I've asked that before but no one here seems to know. If he wins the primary he runs unopposed in the general election in November. I imagine not until early 2007 would his successor take over. He could do a hell of a lot of damage between now and then.


356 posted on 04/23/2006 7:10:57 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Publius22
I had the same reaction to this info...confusion. Kim called 911, then told the players that she called, and everyone cleared out of there in the following 2 minutes. Could the police have arrived later than 12:55?

I was thinking about that earlier. The 911 call from Kim was at 12:53. It took a minute and a half and she didn't mention the address for 30 seconds. The timeline has the police arriving at 12:55. Now, has anybod ever seen police respond to a call in 90 seconds? It seems like the 12:55 time got misreported. Maybe the call TO the police was 12:55 and they arrived at 1:10 or so.

357 posted on 04/23/2006 7:11:53 PM PDT by schooter (Lynching white boys for black votes)
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To: mystery-ak

I bet they did do a TOX screening, and if drugs were found, who cares, she is a "rape victim." They would never prosecute her.

I would love to know if she has to have regular drug screenings ect.

I think there is much about the accuser's background that we do not know and it will make this an interesting defense if it ever makes it to a jury trial.

I saw the femaile defense attorney for one of the LAX captians on on TV last week saying that she thinks once Nifong does a complete inestigation he will know what the defense already knows and drop the case.



358 posted on 04/23/2006 7:14:36 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Locomotive Breath

The last people I'd want living next door to me would be college jocks. Forget about the rape- these guys were total jerks to the neighbors and probably made everyone in the neighborhood's life miserable.


359 posted on 04/23/2006 7:14:43 PM PDT by Krankor (T)
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To: schooter

Typically I have seen a few things, mainly the time in the cab logs, that might indicate everyone's clock was correct except the government one.


360 posted on 04/23/2006 7:15:16 PM PDT by JLS
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