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Tension high in Duke caseN.C. stripper hides as TV shows pics
nydailynews.com ^ | April 20, 2006 | TAMER EL-GHOBASHY and DAVE GOLDINER

Posted on 04/20/2006 6:54:31 AM PDT by mlc9852

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To: mlc9852
There have been several articles stating the lacrosse coach was warned more than once about the boorish behavior of his players. And the one guy is charged with assault in Washington, DC.

If boorish behavior by athletes were a crime in and of itself, there wouldn't be a single team out of jail in this country. But just because these guys are jerks doesn't make them rapists.

401 posted on 04/20/2006 9:56:44 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: OakOak

Busy girl.


402 posted on 04/20/2006 9:56:51 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: mariabush

i have no problems, thanks very much. but i tend to look at immorality and criminality as two different things. flogging the concept that the boys shouldn't have been drinking and having a stripper does not ameliorate the outrage of a false rape accusation. THAT i have a huge problem with, and if you have a son or a husband or a brother, you should also. women lie about sex all the time, be it sexual harrassment, rape or anything like that. once a false claim is made, the bell cannot be unrung, the damage cannot be UNDONE. and false claims can also be made against "nice" boys who have never had a drink underage or seen a stripper or done anything wrong. THAT is why this is an outrage to most people. attempting to equate the two just doesn't wash.


403 posted on 04/20/2006 9:57:40 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: NYCVirago

Nor does it absolve them.


404 posted on 04/20/2006 9:58:17 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: mystery-ak

it was megan (whatever cockamamie way she spells her name!) kendall on Fox, bc i don't switch channels. i rely on you guys to monitor the other channels and i read it all here!


405 posted on 04/20/2006 9:58:43 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: maggief

Oh, dear. I see the Holier Than Thou's have shown up on the thread. LOL

So the plot thickens with what time the stripper actually left the house because the cabbie saw the stripper or just hear the boys he picked up at 1:00 talk about a stripper?


406 posted on 04/20/2006 9:59:12 AM PDT by Peach
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To: mariabush

Her "profession" is a lot older than drunken college boys.


407 posted on 04/20/2006 9:59:57 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Aliska

Before women get pregnant and have children without benefit of a husband, they should ask themselves how the hell they plan on supporting their little darlings! She's 27 or 28, been in the Navy, college student and the best she can get is being a stripper? I doubt it.


408 posted on 04/20/2006 10:00:58 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Alia

Family was expecting to share in the proceeds of the civil suit without having, themselves, to go through with the trial.


409 posted on 04/20/2006 10:01:23 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: mewzilla
>>>Jeepers, if that's the case the chief of police needs a spine implant<<<

All chiefs hold their job at the pleasure of the city council.

Every chief I've met, know of, or even heard of needs that and a scrotum transplant to boot*. That don't make them bad men, it's just the nature of the biz. Over the years, I noted some people in the biz were always late to a bar fight or shooting scene or anything with a bit of risk for personal harm. These types always gravitate towards management, just the nature of the beast.

* I do know of one chief who had a bit of dirt on his council and used that knowledge so he could run an efficient and honest department. It's a world of compromise so to speak.
410 posted on 04/20/2006 10:01:32 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Locomotive Breath



With aspirations to travel the world, the former husband said, she signed up in the fall of 1996 for an eight-year enlistment -- two years of active duty followed by six years in the reserves. She began active duty in the summer of 1997 and was sent to school in Dam Neck, Va., near Virginia Beach, to train for her job operating radios and navigation equipment.

That fall, the couple got married in Virginia Beach. The union would allow the woman's husband to travel wherever the woman was stationed, he said.

The former husband said he was illiterate when he married the then-19-year-old woman. She taught him to read, he said, and was kind and patient during the process. After months of tutoring and many evenings spent paging through beginning-level books, he said, he was finally able to fill out his own job applications.

"She never downed me for that," he said. "She loved me for who I was." He said he saw her after the accusations of rape were reported and she appeared distressed.

As newlyweds, the couple moved to Concord, Calif., where the woman was assigned to the USS Mount Hood, an ammunition ship. She was often away at sea for days or weeks, and tensions flared in the marriage, her former husband said.

"She was young," he said.

Along the way, the woman became interested in another sailor, a man who would later father her children, the former husband said. The two separated as the new relationship began, he said. Six months later, she was discharged from the service.

A U.S. Navy spokesman would not release the reason for the discharge, though records indicate it came less than nine months before she had her first child, a boy, named after his father.


http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/429338.html


411 posted on 04/20/2006 10:01:53 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: xsmommy

There are a lot of women who don't lie about sex and have never gotten themselves into situations where they felt the need to.


412 posted on 04/20/2006 10:02:01 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Carolinamom

I have to run, but from memory she paid her resistution in full. There's a wage attachment, you don't have much choice to pay that back.

I think she's paid in full. But, you go out and steal a car and lead the police on a high speed chase across 2 counties and then try to RUN OVER A POLICE OFFICER - and see if you get 3 WeekENDs in jail.

That is ONE SWEET DEAL!


413 posted on 04/20/2006 10:02:10 AM PDT by OakOak
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To: Locomotive Breath

let's see, we have those who want bad things to happen to the lacrosse players #1 because they were whoremongering or #2 because they are rich and white and privileged and attend an elite university or #3 because they were arrogant and everyone knew and hated someone like them when they were in college. Have i left anything out? and all of this, of course, takes precedence over a false rape accusation because #1, #2, and #3 above all means they were just ASKING FOR IT.


414 posted on 04/20/2006 10:03:13 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: maggief

The USS MOUNT ? I stopped reading right there.


415 posted on 04/20/2006 10:03:20 AM PDT by OakOak
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To: mlc9852

there are JUST ENOUGH women who DO lie about sex to make it dangerous for all men who are out in the world, work force, or school. pray it never happens to anyone that you care about, no matter how virtuous the man.


416 posted on 04/20/2006 10:04:14 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Dante3
Just wondering how a person can be arrested if he has such a solid alibi?

Because an accusation has been made, GJ returned indictments. The solid alibi will help him in court ... unless of course, he is unfortunate to find himself tried in front of a jury whose mind is already made up, regardless the facts prove out.

417 posted on 04/20/2006 10:04:46 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Peach

Yep, and I'm trying VERY hard to ignore them. ;)

Megyn reported the cabbie returned around 1:00 but that must be before Kim placed the 12:53 911 call. Maybe that's when she was waving her cell phone around threatening to call the cops ... and she did.


418 posted on 04/20/2006 10:05:01 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: geezerwheezer
in Durham, North Carolina yesterday, a young man was released on $50,000 bail after being charged with Capitol Murder! The Dukies were released on $400,000 bail each on a rape charge. Wow

If the law in NC is the same in most other states, the amount of bail relates to the likelihood of the accused failing to appear. Naturally the seriousness of the crime (severity of punishment) is a factor in that, but so are such matters as place of permanent residence, ties to the community, etc. College students who only temporarily reside in NC while attending school quite arguably present a much more significant risk of non-appearance than does a local permanent resident who has lived in the state his entire life. That and the fact that $50,000 might not mean very much to an affluent Wall Streeter (as one of the boy's fathers has been described) undoubtedly played a role in the disparity you cite.
419 posted on 04/20/2006 10:06:18 AM PDT by Bellows
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To: maggief

:-) Me too.

I listened to his interview last night and heard him talk a little about this, but he was difficult to understand.


420 posted on 04/20/2006 10:06:24 AM PDT by Peach
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