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Case Aganst Duke Student Unraveling Fast
ABC GMA | Chris Cummo

Posted on 04/19/2006 4:37:00 AM PDT by MindBender26

Breaking overnight from Chris Cummo at ABC GMA:

Case against at least one Duke defemdant unraveling fast.

Defendant Seiligman went to bank ATM while rape supposedly happening.

12:02 Time stamped photos show girl arriving. Girl leaves, comes back, call friends on cell phone does other things. 12:19 Seiligman calls cab dispatcher 12:24 Seiligman takes cab to bank miles away, uses ATM card (photos show it is him.) 12:42 after walking back to dorm, Seiligman uses security card to enter dorm. Does not leave.

Also, Seiligman was never interviewed by cops. DA seeking reelection simply took "Dancers" word that he raped her.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; durhamdirtbag; greedygrifter; lyingfordollars
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To: JeffAtlanta
Her name was intentionally leaked by one of the networks (IIRC it was NBC) right after charges were filed.

After the prosecutor expressed his outrage, they stopped using her name. The made a big spectacle of the fact that the media voluntarily withheld the names of rape victims.

661 posted on 04/19/2006 11:38:07 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: All
Business News Flash: the price of the April Gold contract has just reached $632, up $12.60 for today.

In other news, the MSM blames Bush for recent torrential rains and scattered flooding in northern California, while Generalisimo Francisco Franco is winning his fight to remain dead.

662 posted on 04/19/2006 11:38:08 AM PDT by defenderSD (¤¤ Wishing, hoping, and praying that Saddam will not nuke us is not a national security policy.)
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To: maggief

" An exotic dancer who says three Duke lacrosse players raped her may have identified two of them based on photographs that show scratches on their bodies, "

Nifong did a recreation of the attack for Dan Abrams -it was choke hold.
AV facing forward, head held tightly, attackers behind her-which to me, would make any ID of exactly who did what and where to her-impossible.
Nifong demonstrated where the AV clawed at the arms of the attackers -her sole focus was just trying to breathe.
According to Nifong's demonstration- any scratches would have been on the forearm .
Nifong also said that it was possible that the reason no DNA was found under the victim's fingernails and press on nails-was because the attackers may have been wearing long sleeved shirts or jackets.
Sounds like the AV could not describe what the attackers were wearing-even though they had their arms around her neck and she was clawing at them.
Guess she can't remember whether she made contact with skin or cloth , but, she can ID her attackers with 100% certainty.
BTW- Press on nails are very fragile and have the adhesive power of Post It notes.They would bend back and fall off at the slightest pressure.
Surely Nifong is not saying that press on nails would cause scratches.


663 posted on 04/19/2006 11:39:06 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: mystery-ak

FOX has been saying they expect DNA results "anytime", since yesterday.


664 posted on 04/19/2006 11:40:28 AM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue


Reade was photograhed in a RED SHORT SLEEVE SHIRT. Abrams showed it this morning on The Today Show but now the video clip is unavailable.


665 posted on 04/19/2006 11:40:34 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: LK44-40
The only thing is questionable is why he got into the cab 1.5 blocks from the house.

...and then gave a big tip.

None of these tidbits ~proves~ anything by itself. but they could begin to add up in a circumstantial case.

This is no mystery. If you call a cab company (especially on a Monday night after midnight in a spring break Durham), chances are they won't have one for you for a while. The best thing to do is to walk towards the nearest big intersection and hope to hail a cab.

666 posted on 04/19/2006 11:40:57 AM PDT by GallopingGhost
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To: JeffAtlanta
The only thing is questionable is why he got into the cab 1.5 blocks from the house.

I'll throw out a theory: this is where the friend he rode with lived. Perhaps he left the house, went to his friend's house/apt, told him about the lame party and said "you wanna get someting to eat and crash over at my place?"

Maybe, maybe not. Be interesting to find out.

667 posted on 04/19/2006 11:41:42 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

BTW- Press on nails are very fragile and have the adhesive power of Post It notes.They would bend back and fall off at the slightest pressure.
Surely Nifong is not saying that press on nails would cause scratches.


That's exactly right...they would fall off with even the slightest of pressure.....someone needs to tell the idiot DA that!


668 posted on 04/19/2006 11:42:36 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
Nifong also said that it was possible that the reason no DNA was found under the victim's fingernails and press on nails-was because the attackers may have been wearing long sleeved shirts or jackets.

Apparently he was interviewed on this and was asked was he aware that the pictures show the accused where wearing short sleve shirts.

669 posted on 04/19/2006 11:44:24 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: mystery-ak

The thing is, as I understand it from the description of the photos, she was missing the nails when she entered the house. It was as if she had been putting them on in the car on the way over. This adds credence to the idea that she was in the bathroom finishing up the nail job.


670 posted on 04/19/2006 11:44:49 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: defenderSD
Never mind, it's probably better to stay off that subject.

Good idea...otherwise these guys will be even more embarassed when the pictures of their scratches are shown.

671 posted on 04/19/2006 11:46:31 AM PDT by Krodg
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To: Raycpa

Apparently he was interviewed on this and was asked was he aware that the pictures show the accused where wearing short sleve shirts.



It seems whenever the facts get in the way of her story, Crystal invents new theories to justify her version of things...


672 posted on 04/19/2006 11:46:53 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: defenderSD

The pictures show they were all wearing short sleeved shirts.


673 posted on 04/19/2006 11:46:55 AM PDT by Singermom
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To: Locomotive Breath

The thing is, as I understand it from the description of the photos, she was missing the nails when she entered the house. It was as if she had been putting them on in the car on the way over. This adds credence to the idea that she was in the bathroom finishing up the nail job.


That's right....I have forgotten that little bit of info...


674 posted on 04/19/2006 11:48:01 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: sissyjane

If they don't match, we won't hear about it until Nifong shares them with the defense as part of discovery. I may be wrong on this, but he theoretically can sit on them until after the election if he pleases. May 15th is the first hearing in this, right? Nifong could do a Document Dump on the defense anytime before them unless North Carolina law sets up specific times prior to first court appearances.


675 posted on 04/19/2006 11:48:11 AM PDT by Carling (It's Danny, Sir)
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To: Singermom

Anybody have a link to these pictures?


676 posted on 04/19/2006 11:48:13 AM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: Locomotive Breath

... and wet nail polish on the outside stair railing.


677 posted on 04/19/2006 11:48:58 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: mystery-ak

It seems whenever the facts get in the way of her story, Crystal invents new theories to justify her version of things...

_______


I still have to laugh at the attorneys on tv last night suggesting that this Nifong character probably had a lot of evidence up his sleeve.


678 posted on 04/19/2006 11:49:30 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: GallopingGhost; JeffAtlanta
One thing that strikes me about this case is that it is remarkably rich in detail even though reality remains badly out of focus at this time.

But with so many people involved, photos, phone calls, police, two different hospital facilities, etc....it seems to me that a very detailed picture should eventually emerge of what happened. Of course, we have politics, a lot of lawyers, and could get Jackson/Sharpton so all that amounts to a pretty formidable smoke-blowing machine.

679 posted on 04/19/2006 11:49:50 AM PDT by LK44-40
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To: JeffAtlanta

My camera phone (motorola v-something or other) takes pictures at resolutions up to 1280 x 1024). I think we're talking 1 megapixel, but that ain't bad. I have a great picture of Tomas Vokoun taken from the back of the lower bowl at the Gaylord Entertainment Center. This technology is incredible.


680 posted on 04/19/2006 11:50:26 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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