Posted on 04/19/2006 4:37:00 AM PDT by MindBender26
Breaking overnight from Chris Cummo at ABC GMA:
Case against at least one Duke defemdant unraveling fast.
Defendant Seiligman went to bank ATM while rape supposedly happening.
12:02 Time stamped photos show girl arriving. Girl leaves, comes back, call friends on cell phone does other things. 12:19 Seiligman calls cab dispatcher 12:24 Seiligman takes cab to bank miles away, uses ATM card (photos show it is him.) 12:42 after walking back to dorm, Seiligman uses security card to enter dorm. Does not leave.
Also, Seiligman was never interviewed by cops. DA seeking reelection simply took "Dancers" word that he raped her.
Those were very silly questions.
(1) Students stay on their cell phones continuously - even in movie theaters. Making lots of calls is nothing unusual. I even see people making phone calls while they are working out.
(2) Stopping at an ATM to get enough cash for a cab ride is very common. Most people don't carry around a lot of cash anymore and not all cabs take credit cards. Every time I go out to a club, I always stop at an ATM on the ride home in a cab as I never carry more than $20 with me.
(3) Stopping at a fast food restaurant in a cab isn't unusual either. I've done it many times. They are on every corner so it's not like you have to go out of your way. The stop adds virtually nothing to the cab fare.
The only thing is questionable is why he got into the cab 1.5 blocks from the house.
if it's a false arrest and a violation of Seligman's (and/or Finnerty's) civil rights, the city or county of Durham NC will pay for the DA's idiocy. You can bet your bottom dollar ole dad is looking at that right now.
Someone lost his job over this? And he hasn't even been charged with anything. So now it's criminal to hire a stripper in this country. I'm so ticked off I could hit something.
Compare this to 15 years ago when Ted Kennedy, Patrick Kennedy and William Kennedy Smith went out drinking in Palm Beach. Smith rapes a woman, Tubby was walking around the mansion half-naked trying to accost the women, etc.
What does the media do? They immediately report the victim's name and drag her through the mud.
I think it was the statement from the other dancer that they were in the bathroom for 10-20 minutes. Putting them alone in there together. I.E. rape could not have started before 12:14 to 12:24 am.
Kinda hard to commit rape when at best, you're talking to your girlfriend, or worst, out of the building.
But, Nifong needs his election.....
If there were scratches, wouldn't there be DNA under her fingernails?
Someone lost his job over this? And he hasn't even been charged with anything. So now it's criminal to hire a stripper in this country. I'm so ticked off I could hit something
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I feel the same way.
That's certainly different than how I remember it. During the trial she had a big black circle obscuring her face. I think her name was bleeped out as well.
Guess they took their shirts off before they raped her, huh?
Unreal.
I haven't been this mad in years. About anything.
Good analogies.
LOL! Your state too has administered similar justice in days of yore, but both our states pride themselves now in their feigned sophistication and pomp.
I hadn't heard that about the photos being that detailed. If that is accurate then it certainly wasn't a camera phone.
And ten days after the attack the pictures were taken!!! I think I need to walk away before I say something that gets me banned.
But I will say this before I leave:
I hope those students who are being judged by the elitist metrosexuals and feminazis in the universities and media rooms around the country sue the living crap out of each and every person they can lay their hands on.
Which would, of course, be a ridiculous thing to do since the whole case would fall apart if one, the other, or both of the named assailants could prove he was elsewhere at that time.
I understand BOTH named assailants have evidence they were not at the party.
...and then gave a big tip.
None of these tidbits ~proves~ anything by itself. but they could begin to add up in a circumstantial case.
I haven't been this mad in years. About anything.
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I am concerned this DA would do ANYTHING to look like he did not make a mistake. That is why I am a little unsure about the DNA results that just came back. I am on pins and needles waiting for the results.
Oh no..I have become paranoid.
lol
In the state of Washington, you would have to get the consent of all residents present; which is different than many states. Also, you would not be able to search a bedroom of an individual who did not give consent or was not present, even if another resident said it was OK.
It's spring break and all of the LAXers are in town so they decide to throw a party. Not a regular party but a "show". They had contacted Allure and asked for a lesbian act. Each guy who shows has to bring $50. $40 for the show and $10 to chip in for the keg (as is evidenced by the drinking cups). I am guessing they were expeting a sex show for the $800 they were quoted.
Team shows up at 11:00ish expecting an 11:30 showtime which is consistent with Stripper #2's arrival time. AV, is somewhere else doing who knows. I would guess that she is not at home unless she left her house "in costume" with her father and children present. Sometime before midnight she shows up at the house probably under the influence of something (note there is no evidence of this other than she is already cut and bruised).
Show starts around midnight and the players, having paid $40 per man are not impressed and are asking for the sex acts to begin. The strippers have no intention of doing anything like that. Player asks if they have toys, they don't, someone suggests a broom stick. Strippers are pissed off, stop dancing and go to the bathroom.
Locked in the bathroom stripper #2 changes her clothes and AV starts doing her nails. By this time, whatever AV has ingested is starting to seriously impair her. Probably a lot of "negotiating" going on through the locked door about giving back the $800.
About 12:30ish Stripper #2 leaves bathroom to go get in her car. AV has a few more words with the LAXers and leaves via the back door. Players lock the back door. AV finds her cellphone and tells players she is going to tell police they raped her. She wasn't smiling because she was having fun, she was smiling because the thinks she has the upper hand. Upon trying to leave, she takes a spill on the porch stairs.
Players carry AV to stripper #2's car and they leave. Stripper #2 is pissed and calls 911 to get the police to show up at the house, just to hassle them. AV is passed out in car. Stripper #2 drives to Kroger and tells them some strange chick is in her car, because she has no intention of driving AV back to her house. Police show up and take AV to mental health facility.
AV becomes aware that she is in trouble and knowing that she has previous legal issues, says she was raped.
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