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Case Aganst Duke Student Unraveling Fast
ABC GMA | Chris Cummo

Posted on 04/19/2006 4:37:00 AM PDT by MindBender26

Breaking overnight from Chris Cummo at ABC GMA:

Case against at least one Duke defemdant unraveling fast.

Defendant Seiligman went to bank ATM while rape supposedly happening.

12:02 Time stamped photos show girl arriving. Girl leaves, comes back, call friends on cell phone does other things. 12:19 Seiligman calls cab dispatcher 12:24 Seiligman takes cab to bank miles away, uses ATM card (photos show it is him.) 12:42 after walking back to dorm, Seiligman uses security card to enter dorm. Does not leave.

Also, Seiligman was never interviewed by cops. DA seeking reelection simply took "Dancers" word that he raped her.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; durhamdirtbag; greedygrifter; lyingfordollars
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To: OakOak
From her voice and diction I got the impression that she is educated, and coupled w/her claim that her parents did not know that she was/is a stripper, I wonder if she might be from a well-known upper class black family and the media is protecting her because of that.

If that is so, too bad about those Duke boys who are also educated and from upper class families....they're guilty for being white males.

1,621 posted on 04/19/2006 8:06:17 PM PDT by Carolinamom (Daily legal immigrant to FreeRepublic.com)
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To: mystery-ak

She was discharged within nine months of the birth of her first child, so pregnancy may be an allowable way to leave if the woman chooses.


1,622 posted on 04/19/2006 8:07:52 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: pepperhead

I am still disturbed that the DA would redo DNA test.
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Why I believe I heard on some media outlet that the second set of DNA tests are the DNA associated with hair, regular and pubic, found on her person. That explains a second set of test if not a DA so low that he would smear someone for the sake of his reelection.


1,623 posted on 04/19/2006 8:10:17 PM PDT by JLS
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To: OakOak

Rod Wheeler is the detective on with Billy O. DPD didn't want to rush the case.....the DA did. Crystal showed up drunk at the house....people with her prior to the party said she was pretty wasted. I think Kim is a liar.


1,624 posted on 04/19/2006 8:11:29 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Kaufman County, Texas)
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To: Howlin
"she was in a submarine -- until she got pregnant NOT by her husband and got booted out"

Well, any doubt she EVER had scruples is put to rest.....

So she went from Naval attire to bad hair braids and tacky white stripper heels??? Ewwww...

1,625 posted on 04/19/2006 8:11:31 PM PDT by BossLady
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To: BossLady

She had already suggested becoming a 'dancer' when she was married to her 1st husband before she joined the navy.


1,626 posted on 04/19/2006 8:13:12 PM PDT by Carolinamom (Daily legal immigrant to FreeRepublic.com)
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To: JLS

Why not test it all the first time? And why go to a second lab? And if the state labs work is so bad what does that say about all the convictions they have gotten with results from that same lab?


1,627 posted on 04/19/2006 8:13:54 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Sounds like they didn't pay the strippers, and were thinking the pimp (probably armed with more than a lacrosse stick) would come after them at the house for the money.

mark.

1,628 posted on 04/19/2006 8:14:18 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Krankor; Carolinamom

I asked a Reporter making the rounds on the National shows if he had checked to see whether she was, in-fact, attending classes when the event occured.

He wrote me and said, "That's easy enough to find out and it's a good question"

Now, he doesn't respond to me..

I thought early on (real early) that she was lying and the press was of the mind "why would she lie?"

I pointed out the discrepancies in her and her Father's stories and I got back a lot of messages asking me "How I knew her name?" I'm still getting accusing e-mails from Major Newspaper Editors that apparently reporters "kicked up " the chain - asking for my last name or what my involvement is in the case.

A local Radio guy went on National TV and parroted the line about - she's a single mother with 2 kids WORKING her way through college. We have to admire that, he said. I saw him at Duke and I asked him and his producer if they KNOW that's she's working her way through college and not going on Gov't Grants. They both admitted no one had checked on how she financed college.

Since nothing has been leaked by the DEF, I suspect that she was attending NCCU as she says. However, even the Defense is on guard for being attacked by the Media as using the Nuts and Sluts defense or tarring the victim in any way.


1,629 posted on 04/19/2006 8:15:09 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: pepperhead

Thank you.


1,630 posted on 04/19/2006 8:15:17 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Carolinamom

So the 'exhibitionist gene' was already rearing it's ugly head in those days....LOL!


1,631 posted on 04/19/2006 8:16:11 PM PDT by BossLady
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To: Howlin
General discharge--not exactly a sterling representative for the military.
1,632 posted on 04/19/2006 8:16:55 PM PDT by Tarheel (When I die I am Tarheel dead.)
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To: OakOak

The court required the father of her 2 kids to pay child support.


1,633 posted on 04/19/2006 8:17:55 PM PDT by Carolinamom (Daily legal immigrant to FreeRepublic.com)
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To: OakOak
There is NO POLICY anywhere NOT to release the 2nd strippers name.

You are right. What "rubric" do you think the media is using for not releasing the 2nd stripper's name? Kim. Kim Bissey.

Lets see, I'll help em out...

It would complicate a "fair hearing".

She's a female.

We are our own "law enforcement" here and we are protecting Kim so the DA can use her in defending the woman we CANNOT name.

1,634 posted on 04/19/2006 8:18:22 PM PDT by Alia
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To: OakOak

So why do you think she took her car to her father's house and said to him that she wanted to keep it there for a few days? Why was she hiding her car?


1,635 posted on 04/19/2006 8:18:44 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: All

The NC SBI spokesman went on TV and said that the DNA testing wasn't too complicated and that they had the same testing hundreds, if not thousands of times.

IMO, Nifong with his reputation on the line, submitted the same testing to a private lab thinking something is there.

Most likely, they did do other tests that focus more on several players in particular, too.


1,636 posted on 04/19/2006 8:19:04 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: Law is not justice but process

You've explained this very well and clearly. I thank you very much.


1,637 posted on 04/19/2006 8:19:46 PM PDT by Alia
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To: GAgal
I think that's someone else with the same name./

I'll bet you're right. The obituary mentions one surviving grandchild --doesn't the alleged victim have two children?

1,638 posted on 04/19/2006 8:20:43 PM PDT by beyondashadow
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To: OakOak
I asked him and his producer if they KNOW that's she's working her way through college and not going on Gov't Grants.

I am not very well in synch with a lot of your comments the last couple of days, but I stand back in awe and admiration for your work here. Well done.

1,639 posted on 04/19/2006 8:20:49 PM PDT by LK44-40
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To: ladyjane

She's had her license revoked 3 times. Any way to find out how long the last one has been revoked? Is it possible that little Crystal has been driving w/out a license?


1,640 posted on 04/19/2006 8:21:00 PM PDT by Carolinamom (Daily legal immigrant to FreeRepublic.com)
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