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Case Aganst Duke Student Unraveling Fast
ABC GMA | Chris Cummo

Posted on 04/19/2006 4:37:00 AM PDT by MindBender26

Breaking overnight from Chris Cummo at ABC GMA:

Case against at least one Duke defemdant unraveling fast.

Defendant Seiligman went to bank ATM while rape supposedly happening.

12:02 Time stamped photos show girl arriving. Girl leaves, comes back, call friends on cell phone does other things. 12:19 Seiligman calls cab dispatcher 12:24 Seiligman takes cab to bank miles away, uses ATM card (photos show it is him.) 12:42 after walking back to dorm, Seiligman uses security card to enter dorm. Does not leave.

Also, Seiligman was never interviewed by cops. DA seeking reelection simply took "Dancers" word that he raped her.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; durhamdirtbag; greedygrifter; lyingfordollars
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To: LK44-40

Personally, I persist in the belief that IF she has GHB in her system, then it was self-ingested.

Just for kicks and all.


1,581 posted on 04/19/2006 7:43:02 PM PDT by Carling (It's Danny, Sir)
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To: BossLady

Notice how no one mentions Laziness or drug addictions as
reasons for stripping?

But our society, our system, and the usual suspects are always cited as reasons why other people make these choices.


1,582 posted on 04/19/2006 7:44:08 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: OakOak
This is another WHITE WING Conspriracy.

LOL>...........that's very funny.

But I still wonder WHO you are.

1,583 posted on 04/19/2006 7:45:06 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: OakOak
She has a drug charge, a DWI, and 3 license suspensions

But the big character story tonight is that a Duke-ie refered to her in a cab as 'just a stripper'. That should warrant 5 years behind bars.

Like someone said here the only person telling the truth is a drunken stripper.

1,584 posted on 04/19/2006 7:45:07 PM PDT by Swanks
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To: OakOak

If I heard Reverend Al correctly tonight, he claimed the players were pretending to be on the basketball or track treams in order to be able to get black strippers.

Actually according to the police affidavit the accuser told police that at the party players were pretending to be from the BASEBALL and track teams. Sharpton cleverly lied to twist even this aspect into a racial issue.


1,585 posted on 04/19/2006 7:45:58 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: maggief

>>. Osborn said he hoped Mr. Nifong would drop the charges, but he was unable to talk with him.

"I've known the guy for 25 years," Mr. Osborn said. "I went over and thought surely he'd listen to me on it. And he sent some messenger out and said: 'I saw you on the TV saying your client was absolutely innocent, so what do we have to talk about?' He wouldn't even see me himself."

Joseph B. Cheshire, a Raleigh, N.C., lawyer for a lacrosse captain who has been cleared, said there was also clear alibi evidence for Finnerty. He declined to be specific. Finnerty's lawyer William J. Cotter did not return phone calls.

Meanwhile, in Charlottesville, Va., Chip Royer, a lawyer for Jeffrey O. Bloxsom, who says he was assaulted by Mr. Finnerty last year, said Mr. Bloxsom was being hounded by the news media because of the Duke case and was now considering a civil suit against Mr. Finnerty.

Juliet Macur contributed reporting for this article.<<

From a NYT article on another thread.


1,586 posted on 04/19/2006 7:46:49 PM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: OakOak

If Crystal was so dead drunk, how is it that her hand had to be pryed from Kim's car brake handle? Wouldn't her hands have been limp? Was she faking?


1,587 posted on 04/19/2006 7:48:22 PM PDT by Carolinamom (Daily legal immigrant to FreeRepublic.com)
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To: LK44-40

Very good! A great man, underappreciated by his own people.


1,588 posted on 04/19/2006 7:48:48 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: MindBender26

ya scooped them all again didnt you?!? LOL


1,589 posted on 04/19/2006 7:48:48 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Swanks

Exactly. No one in the media - NO ONE - has said like they did daily in the Kobe case, Is this woman's word enough to ruin a young man's life?

We heard, we have to be absolutely sure here. I mean this is not the type of person that we can trust to ruin a man's life.

NOT ONE will say it. Instead, these women are portrayed like
a combination of Rosa Parks and Mother Teresa.


1,590 posted on 04/19/2006 7:49:08 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: schooter
I won't bore the tread by repeating details but there is a lot there consistent with her being suddenly and profoundly impaired. Could she have done it to herself. Possible, but doesn't seem the most like explanation to me.

It does look to me like they were very anxious to help her away from the house and then anxious to get away themselves. It fits with "She's just a stripper."

I think these boys are rowdy students but I really don't see them doing anything violent or obviously serious like rape. But it might seem a funny idea -- after enough beer -- to see what pill would do to this non-performing so-called-dancer.

I don't think these boys are thuggish enough to commit the crime alleged. But I don't have your confidence in their truthfulness. They were very rowdy dudes, out of control enough that the administration had already reprimaned their coach. Of course, they would try to lie themselves out of a jam.

1,591 posted on 04/19/2006 7:50:32 PM PDT by LK44-40
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To: Carling
Date rape drugs like Rohypnol turn blue in liquid so she would have noticed it in her drink unless she had a Blue Hawaiian or something LOL! It takes 15-25 minutes to kick in and a little less if already impaired. Also, the drug can stay in the system for up to 72 hours. The metabolization process can be slowed by liver enzymes being overtaxed by alcohol etc....so she could test positive and the drug could have been taken 3 days before!

(Info comes from the Doc I work for who has a PhD in Pharmacology)

1,592 posted on 04/19/2006 7:51:07 PM PDT by BossLady
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To: Howlin
But remember that somebody on that thread pointed out that the problem with the ones we're dealing with now, i.e., Lisa Bloom, Wendy Murphy, Nancy and Kimberly, DO NOT have their tongues cut out. :-)

Maybe someone should send them a flyer with the groups meeting dates and location.

1,593 posted on 04/19/2006 7:51:10 PM PDT by schooter (Lynching white boys for black votes)
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To: sissyjane

Mr. Bloxsom was being hounded by the news media because of the Duke case and was now considering a civil suit against Mr. Finnerty.


Mr. Bloxsom has found out that Finnerty's father has deep pockets.....


1,594 posted on 04/19/2006 7:51:47 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: OakOak

Do you know anyone who could reveal Kim's last name? She seems to have more rights to anonymity than anyone else, and I simply do not understand the reason for her being shielded.


1,595 posted on 04/19/2006 7:52:23 PM PDT by Carolinamom (Daily legal immigrant to FreeRepublic.com)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Clarence Thomas was most astute in calling it a legal lynching. It's been done on many levels in this country and using "special peeps" laws and pro-bono lawyers.

Harassment, asset redistribution under the guise of "fairness". Low-income and females usually get "free lawyers" paid for by ALL taxpayers. Middle class pays these taxes and then if caught by the heel in a "alleged" case, they get to not only PAY for their accuser's lawyer (via taxes), they have to go into their own incomes to pay for their own LEGAL DEFENSE against charges. Whether or not the charges are legitimate, real or what not.

Illegals in the Muriel Swindle.. Florida.. years ago.

The illegals robbed some Florida banks. It was the People versus these illegals. Hermandad nacional (a "civil rights" org) funded the defense. Got the illegals, 4 of them, off on a technical charge. Together with Hermanded they sued the Florida Taxpayers. Huge payoff. And the illegals then "contributed a large part of their winnings to Hermandad nacional. Most racial groups and sex group play this racket.

Lib Dems love direct taxes and indirect taxes -- just slap a "civil rights" monicker around the place..

1,596 posted on 04/19/2006 7:52:34 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Howlin
"He said no"

The attorneys on this thread think it's iffy about a Federal civil rights suit against the DA, county and city.
While I respect their opinions, based on their many years of lawyering, too many people watch CSI and other cop shows. We're conditioned to buy into the omnipotent crime labs and such.
Now it will take a lawyer with deep pockets, but if he were to sell 'shares' in it as to probable outcome, I'd buy.

Heck, all this time I thought Nifong held something back.
1,597 posted on 04/19/2006 7:52:43 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: sissyjane

I think Nifong is very vindictive.


1,598 posted on 04/19/2006 7:53:59 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: Howlin

yep... the "when did you stop beating your wife" agenda...


1,599 posted on 04/19/2006 7:54:01 PM PDT by Alia
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To: GAgal

This cabbie told Rita he got a call at 1:01 and picked up 4 more boys from the house. Yet the police responding to the first 911 call were at the house at 12:55 and stayed until 1:06 and NO ONE WAS THERE.

_____________________

The cabby has a computerized call log.

It should be easy to varify anything he says.


1,600 posted on 04/19/2006 7:54:14 PM PDT by snarkytart
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