Posted on 04/11/2006 8:28:30 PM PDT by Asceticon
The Durham County district attorney said today that the woman who accused three Duke lacrosse players of raping her at an off-campus party last month had identified at least one of them in a photo montage last week........... "There was no identification of any member of that lacrosse team until last week," the district attorney, Michael B. Nifong, said at an informational meeting today attended by more than 400 people at North Carolina Central University, where the woman was a student. He was answering a question about why no one has been arrested.
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Like the Ford and Rockefeller and MacArthur foundations, these are now in the hands of the completely -- and I mean completely -- anti-American left.
With regard to my former school, I can give you chapter and verse, times, dates, people, decisions -- the lot. However, it's both boring and sickening, and I wouldn't waste Mr. Robinson's bandwidth on such a project.
Best to you, and FReegards!
So Duke should punish these young men for hiring strippers not because stripping is inherently immoral, but rather because of the stereotype that "these women tend to be con artists and drug addicts" and it's unwise to let someone like that in your home? LOL.
I agree with you they would not win a lawsuit over the cancellation of the season (Duke could do that soley on the basis of the underage drinking if it wished), but I am saying it would not be fair to do it on that basis.
My type? What type is that? The type that doesn't think that students don't have a God given right to play lacrosse? The type that remembers that the team offered to sit until the DNA results came back, so they would out in any case until yesterday? I think the DA's actions have been extremely unethical in this case. He has tried these young men in press, yet he has yet to charge a single person. He has made promises regarding DNA, then has moved the goalposts once the tests did not come back in his favor. He is clearly exploiting this case in order to win election. I don't believe that these players are guilty of rape, the DNA tests are too conclusive to think otherwise. But the fact of the matter is, Duke was put in a tough situation. The DA leaked his case to the media, who ran with it. Duke couldn't put its head in the sand and pretend this is going away by saying nothing while getting battered in the press for weeks, especially during this time with acceptance letters are out and students are choosing to come or not.
Duke is in the real world, where one story, one rumor no matter how untrue, can linger for decades, particularly when we're talking about 1) rape and 2)race. The adminstration had to make the appearance of a response.
FReegards to you as well, and raising a toast that what you have described won't always be the case. We are, as you know, now enmired in the "1960s Hippies Come To Their Majority" era. I do believe they will be gone soon, and the "Reagan-Era Realists Come to their Majority" era will spread that rare and beautiful thing -- Common Sense -- upon the land.
It can't come too soon.
This guy must be leaking water badly. He's already into the 'DID NOT! DID SO!' strategy.
Lacrosse has nothing to do with anything here, and repeated references to it, or to football, or baseball, or chess for that matter, are irrelevant and only serve to muddy the issue...which, from your earlier posts, seemed at minimum to be your goal.
Duke was NOT in any sort of tough situation, were it a normal institution. Wait for the investigation, no problem.
Unfortunately, the assumption that Duke is a 'normal' institution is false-to-fact. It may still have some broad educational function in one or another graduate school, but it is now thoroughly and apodeictically, in the undergraduate school, an institution dedicated to propagandising, to spreading PC and PC-ish doctrines, even by force of authority.
And this grotesque transformation, clearly the doing of the administration and faculty, extends -- as we have just seen -- to Duke's completely defalcative behaviour regarding the falsely accused students.
An **honourable** institution, academic or any other, would have called out the DA immediately, and waved the Constitution right in the b*st*rd's face.
Duke didn't. It failed to demonstrate that that institution upholds either the Constitution or traditional American legal values. Pure and simple, and no way to argue otherwise.
In future, please spare the straw man arguments about some sort of mystical 'right' to play lacrosse: there isn't one, we both agree on it, said mystical right has not been assumed by anyone I've seen on this thread, and the playing of lacrosse has nothing whatever to do with the matter at hand.
Good night.
I'll cross my fingers along with yours.
;^)
and what do you mean by sex?....wasn't one of the great facts brought out by the diligent MSM was that her hyman was still intact...
and this present case ILLUSTRATES perfectly how the raging MSM can taint a story one way or the other....
the young 19 yro in Colorado was deemed a slut from day one and unstable, but we didn't hear a peep out of anybody about this woman's past in North Carolina until local media drug it up.....
the fact that people like yourself jump on and off the MSM media bandwagon and goose step to their tune is very, very telling....
false?.... or unprovable....there is a differance....
maybe you can cite the statistic for how many women DON't report rape out of fear of reprisal and ridicle.....something like 90%.....
You can't believe for one minute that what the DA is doing is simply DUMB ....I could forgive dumb....
..BUT, It's a planned political attack that not only will get him in good with the local black folks, but also earn him his honorary Liberal, Apologist, Democrat degree from the local hierarchy....
who knows?.....this could get him appointed as a US District Attorney or a judge when the next lousey Demoncrap prez comes in.....
nothing he has done was done out of stupidity....infact, everything he has done has been self-serving and totally evil IMO.....
but if there is not dna, the DA had better put up or shut up about this case....I can't imagine what evidence would overide lack of DNA but I am sure he'll try.....
It's not just Duke, it's all of our top universities. Neighborhing UNC is no less politically correct (e.g., requiring all first year students to read selected portions of the Koran). Over the last several decades pretty much all top American universities have been captured to a greater or lesser extent by the left. When they get in power, they do things like impose speech codes in order to silence their political opponents and political correctness becomes the rule of the day.
The problem really arises out of the humanities and social sciences. As David Horowitz so articulately points out, much of the curriculum in areas such as "women's studies" is not really bona fide scholarship but rather ideological indoctrination. The hard sciences basically mind their own business and don't have that much to do with the militant left-wing ideologies spewing out of the humanities and social sciences.
and Neuheusel.....gees, he was a scum from day one....maybe he only got caught betting on sports, but he was known to attend parties with Mob connections ( he denied it) and he left both his Colorado team and his WAshington team in shambles.....
Really. Pls reread my comments on this thread -- I crime my former college far worse than Duke on such matters.
I'm a trifle unlucky, I suppose. 'Speech codes' didn't exist in my day. Had they done, I'd have been retired at 25, or 27 at the worst. (w!) Best to you, and FReegards!
Yep, actually I didn't mean to disagree with you, just "piling on" to the points you made.
Ironic that after staring down marxism all over the world in places like the Soviet Union and China that perhaps its strongest remaining bastion is right here at home in the American university.
WHERE'S KIM?
The Duke Chronicle reports: "DNA test results reveal no matches on the men's lacrosse team." The AP reports: "No DNA match in Duke gang rape case."
90%? I hardly think so. However, during the 90s it became fairly clear that many times the accusers charging rape did so as a revenge act after a consensual sex act. Do you recall the whole "date-rape" feminist agenda at the colleges? A woman could have consensual sex one night; but the next day change her mind to decide it was "rape". This was the substance upon which the "Take Back the Night" rallies grew as a political movement.
I have no doubts there is actual rape and that some victims do not report it.
The feminists turned "rape" into a political game; and coupled with their "level the playing field-everyone can play" -- rape is being played out in numerous bizarre strategies of the human heart, and splaying out across the media.
One can now even feel "raped" by a person's thoughts or expressed opinions. A La McKinnon, all sexual acts between heteros is "rape" (Dworkin concurred).
And now that illegals are contributing to SS but not reaping the benefits (per an article posted earlier on Freep), no doubts, some illegals will consider they feel "raped" by the American system.
Cindy Sheehan was "BRUTALIZED" by the Capitol Police when they assisted in removing her from blocking a doorway. Nancy Pelosi, no doubts, feels RAPED by the "culture of corruption".
Rape used to have real, clear, definitive meaning. In this age of rap and "ho", of consensual sex, or "sex workers" -- the Feminists have worked hard to destroy whatever meaning there once was to the term rape.
Nifong and Others are attempting to pull a 50's'ism in regards to the Exotic Dancer: That somehow, a woman in bare clothing, working for a living removing her clothes, is a bona fide profession (or should be).
Feminists launched a screed many years ago, that a woman in sexy attire walking into an ally did not "deserve" to be raped. The operative word here is "deserve".
Who the heck EVER "deserves" to be raped? ?
The same political group which hates Christian Symbols and Camouflage and the American flag -- is the same group that says "symbols" don't matter -- that a sexily attired woman isn't sending off "subliminal" messages -- meanwhile asserting, as they do -- that the American Flag and Camouflage and Christian Symbols DO send off subliminal "signals".
Rape used to have meaning. Now in the age of sex workers of "hanging out" of Victoria Secret Thongwear hanging out above the pants line.. somehow, these aren't supposed to be "signals".
Feminists have with purpose mangled the validity and purpose of "rape" as a criminal offense.
The Exotic Stripper used the "R" word. She claims she was "raped". There is no automatic need to believe she was. Not in this age and with all that has passed. NO La Crosse Player DNA was found in any proximity to her.
Perhaps she dreamed it in her intoxicated state?
Some college professors have lost their jobs JUST over "accusations" of being inappropriately touched or spoken to from a female. "female". An anonymous complaint.
Therefore, by the very nature of "denuding" rape victims by so-called protection of their privacy against ridicule, etc., have feminists depersonalized women.
And this is just only one way in which feminist jurisprudence has nullified WOMEN.
This is a clear case of "refreshed menory" a la Janet Reno.
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