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Woman Identified at Least 1 Duke Player, Prosecutor Says
New York Times ^

Posted on 04/11/2006 8:28:30 PM PDT by Asceticon

The Durham County district attorney said today that the woman who accused three Duke lacrosse players of raping her at an off-campus party last month had identified at least one of them in a photo montage last week........... "There was no identification of any member of that lacrosse team until last week," the district attorney, Michael B. Nifong, said at an informational meeting today attended by more than 400 people at North Carolina Central University, where the woman was a student. He was answering a question about why no one has been arrested.

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TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: crime; duke; dukelax; government; itscrimenotsports; lacrosse; notsports
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To: staytrue

Not a chance.

You're simply wrong. Duke administratiors are culpable up to their necks if this thing continues to disintegrate like it's been doing the last couple of days. They besmirched their own students WAY too soon, without benefit of even a HEARING, in obesience to the PC gods.

If I was the coach, or one of the students made public, before ANY trial, and this thing turns out to be Tawana Brawley, I'd OWN that university.


81 posted on 04/11/2006 9:35:32 PM PDT by JennysCool (Liberals don't care what you do, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: Howlin
I'm convinced that if the DA doesn't charge somebody, that town is going to explode.

I guess they need to haul rodney king's sorry rear out there and give a "can't we all just get along" speech.

82 posted on 04/11/2006 9:36:14 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Howlin
Obviously you've missed the public lynching.

Not everyone who's lynched is innocent.

83 posted on 04/11/2006 9:36:49 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker
at a rape survivor

That she is a rape survivor is an assumption on your part. That claim is in issue here.

84 posted on 04/11/2006 9:37:05 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Howlin

Sounds like the rest of his career is nicely matching the beginning!


85 posted on 04/11/2006 9:37:26 PM PDT by JennysCool (Liberals don't care what you do, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: JennysCool
If I was the coach, or one of the students made public, before ANY trial, and this thing turns out to be Tawana Brawley, I'd OWN that university.

Would you be comparing this young rape survivor to Tawana Brawley if she were white? If she were, perchance a white jogger in Central Park? And the accused black or Hispanic? Let the investigation take its course, then say what you want. But this is the kind of conjectural crap that gives some conservatives a bad name in certain circles.

86 posted on 04/11/2006 9:39:11 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: SAJ

duke did not falsely accuse anyone.

they cancelled the lacrosse season, they did not even kick the kids out of school except for the one kid who sent the email.

if duke accused these kids of rape, they would have kicked them out of school which they did not do.


87 posted on 04/11/2006 9:39:57 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
That she is a rape survivor is an assumption on your part. That claim is in issue here.

I assume you gave the young lady a pelvic examination?

88 posted on 04/11/2006 9:40:03 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker
a rape survivor.

She apparently had NO DNA on her or about her from ANY of these people being slimed. Nor ANY indication she had even had sex recently. None At All. None. Zero. Zip. Nada.

89 posted on 04/11/2006 9:40:21 PM PDT by JennysCool (Liberals don't care what you do, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

Kristalnacht


90 posted on 04/11/2006 9:40:30 PM PDT by junta (It's Jihad stupid! It's the borders stupid! "From the halls of Montezuma...")
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To: Alter Kaker
I also think it's disgusting, again given the limited amount we know, to be hurling accusations at a rape survivor.

I agree with you, however if the evidence of rape exists let's make sure we convict the real rapists, not the only ones the drunken girl can "remember" after 4 weeks.

Since there's no forensic evidence and it will be a she said/they said, her personal credibility Has to be questioned.

91 posted on 04/11/2006 9:41:07 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Only in New Jersey!)
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To: junta
Kristalnacht

Excuse me? I happen to know something about Kristalnacht. And I find the comparison ludicrous and offensive.

92 posted on 04/11/2006 9:41:28 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker
The DA should put up, or shut up. They are being tried in the media and all too many phonies with a personal chip on their shoulder want to take it out on them.
93 posted on 04/11/2006 9:41:48 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: Howlin; Congressman Billybob
As a practical political matter, Howlin, ask yourself this (because I'll pretty much guarantee you this idiot of a DA is asking himself this)

Query: Now that I've screwed up, according to hard forensic evidence, what is the BEST course I can take to minimise the electoral damage next November (or whenever this particular b*st*rd is up for re-election)?

As you've noted so accurately, this moron's decision is likely to depend on whether he can manipulate voir dire to include 12 (or 6 or 9, whichever number is appropriate in the moron's jurisdiction) subfunctional alleged 'humans' on the jury.

D'ye know who OUGHT to weigh in on this one? Our good friend Congressman Billybob -- heck, it's HIS state!

94 posted on 04/11/2006 9:41:54 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
He could have been making a lot more money in private practice

Usually, the smart people do. The dullards go into government because they can't hack it privately.

95 posted on 04/11/2006 9:42:00 PM PDT by JennysCool (Liberals don't care what you do, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: JennysCool
They besmirched their own students

They did not. The students admitted to having strippers at a party. That is grounds for firig the coach and kicking everyone off the team.

96 posted on 04/11/2006 9:42:30 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Alter Kaker

Oh, for God's sake. Race has NOTHING to do with this.

And, guess what -- you know it doesn't.


97 posted on 04/11/2006 9:44:19 PM PDT by JennysCool (Liberals don't care what you do, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: Alter Kaker

The SANE nurse said the injuries were "consistent with" sexual assault. They may also be consistent with something else.

You haven't seen the medical evidence. For all we know, whatever was noted by the nurse could be consistent with rough sex with her boyfriend or one of the "one-on-ones" she does in her escort business.

I listened carefully to the DA speaking in an interview where he discussed the medical evidence. He only used the term "swelling" in that interview.

You are assuming that the fact that she was raped is an established fact; we do not know that that is the case from what has been reported publicly.


98 posted on 04/11/2006 9:45:22 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: JennysCool

regarding coaches

Of all the college coaches who have been fired this offseason for personal vices (as opposed to job-related vices, mainly losing) the only one who has garnered much sympathy is Washington football coach Rick Neuheisel. Unlike fired Iowa State basketball coach Larry Eustachy, Neuheisel did not regularly attend parties at the homes of students, who at were at first star-struck but later, as he lingered awkwardly into the wee hours of the morning hitting on young women, increasingly creeped out. And unlike recently fired Alabama coach Mike Price, Neuheisel was not accused of spending a night with a stripper who ran up $1,000 in room-service charges on his company credit card, and, according to the stripper, answering her midcoital cry of "Roll, Tide" with the rejoinder, "It's rolling baby, it's rolling!" Few of us shed tears for Eustachy or Price because few of us have found ourselves in these sorts of situations. (Although, in Price's defense, anybody who has seen a room-service menu would know that spending $1,000 is not as hard as it sounds.)

Neuheisel's crime, by contrast, seems rather prosaic. He took part in an NCAA tournament betting pool the past two years, albeit an unusually high-stakes one, in which he won about $12,000. NCAA coaches are expressly forbidden to wager on college sports, and, ergo, Neuheisel was fired. The punishment struck many people as manifestly unfair. After all, millions of Americans participate in NCAA tournament pools,


99 posted on 04/11/2006 9:46:06 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: JennysCool
Oh, for God's sake. Race has NOTHING to do with this.

Explain the email.

100 posted on 04/11/2006 9:46:34 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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