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PitBulls go on rampage through Philadelphia
NBC.10 ^ | April 6, 2006 | NBC10.com

Posted on 04/08/2006 4:37:43 PM PDT by Wristpin

Pit bulls on the loose went on a rampage Thursday and terrorized a southwest Philadelphia neighborhood. The dogs escaped from their backyard at 53rd Street and Cedar Avenue and ran several blocks through the neighborhood, attacking several people. Their rampage ended with a policeman shooting one of the dogs.

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TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: attacks; canine; canines; dog; dogofpeace; dogs; hound; lapdog; mansbestfriend; maul; pet; pets; philadelphia; pitbulls; pitbullterriers; pup; puppy
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To: Wristpin
Many other common breeds look similar to the pit bull breeds to inexperienced eyes, and can be confused for them. A few of these breeds are the Argentine Dogo, the English Bull Terrier, the American Bulldog, and the Boxer. The Staffordshire Bull Terrier and the American Staffordshire Terrier are considered to be separate breeds in most countries (including England, Australia and New Zealand), but in the United States are considered to be pit bulls.

These are selected quotes from the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull

The article quotes several sources which are linked and can be confirmed. Pit bulls were historically bred to display dominance aggression toward other dogs—a relic of the breed's dog fighting past. Even today, pitbulls are known to be predisposed towards dog aggression. However, a pit bull displaying the correct breed temperament is friendly towards humans, and is generally a poor choice as a guard dog [2]. Unfortunately, many unethical breeders do not breed to the standard, producing so-called "pitbulls" that are both human and dog aggressive.

Specifically, these dogs accompanied farmers into the fields to assist with bringing bulls in for breeding, castration, or slaughter. The dogs, known generally as bulldogs, protected the farmer by subduing the bull if it attempted to gore him. Typically a dog would do this by biting the bull on the nose and holding on until the bull submitted. Because of the nature of their job, bulldogs were bred to have powerful jaws, muscular bodies, and the resolve to hold onto a violently-struggling bull, even when injured.

Because pit bull is an all-encompassing term used to describe several breeds of dogs, determining whether a dog is a pit bull is often particularly difficult. A study [3] for the United States Department of Health and Human Services discusses some reasons why fatalities might be overstated for pit bulls, in large part because most people (including experienced dog owners) often can't distinguish a pit bull from any other stocky, broad-faced, or muscular dog. For additional discussions on this and dog-human aggression in general, see dog attacks.

The American Temperament Test Society, Inc. (ATTS) breed statistics as of December 2004 show an 83.4% passing rate for the American Pit Bull Terrier and a 93.2% passing rate for the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, as compared to an 81% average pass rate for all dog breeds. These statistics must be accepted as somewhat biased, as irresponsible owners and owners of aggressive dogs are unlikely to submit their dogs for temperament testing. However, the dogs tested display pitbull temperament at its best - stable, confident and friendly towards humans.

181 posted on 04/12/2006 8:15:43 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: PleaseNoMore

Those aren't my sites...those are pro Pit Bull industry sites!

The breed leads in deaths and serious maulings. It's genetics plain and simple.


182 posted on 04/12/2006 8:17:21 PM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Darnright; Wristpin
"the dog that recently mauled a Frenchwoman so badly that she was given the world’s first face transplant was, of all things, a Labrador retriever."

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060206fa_fact

183 posted on 04/12/2006 8:19:30 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Wristpin
The breed leads in deaths and serious maulings.

That is a lie.

Of the 199 dog-attack fatalities in the USA between 1979 and 1996, dogs identified as pit bulls were responsible for 60 attacks—just under a third. The next most-dangerous group was Rottweilers, responsible for 29 attacks (statistics from the CDC). These statistics may be tainted by the fact that the breed recorded as responsible is taken from the reports of witnesses and is rarely confirmed by dog experts or registration papers.

The CDC even recognizes this fact as it classifies this breed in quotation marks followed by the word "types". IOW, it's "pit bull type" dogs. This can include other bullbreeds and mixes.

184 posted on 04/12/2006 8:24:39 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Wristpin
>The breed leads in deaths and serious maulings. It's genetics plain and simple.<

Road apples. Sad to say, the pit bull just happens to be the breed du jour for the thug culture. A couple of decades back, you saw German Shepherds and Dobermans as the "bad boys" of the canine world.

There are people in this world, that do not look upon dogs as the majority of people do. They want to have a dog which can "beat up your dog", or worse yet, a dog that can take you down. At this point in time, they can most easily get hold of the pit bull.

But, if pit bulls are banned, you still have the underlying problem, which is the evil, brutal, irresponsible segment of humanity. If they can no longer get pit bulls, you better hope and pray they cannot get Fila Brasiliera, or Tosa Inus, or Cane Corsos. There are many others, that have the potential to kill an adult human, much less a child.

Ban the really bad dogs, and they won't really go away. They'll simply go underground.

And, if the thugs and barbarians cannot get the very very dangerous breeds, they'll go back to Dobes and Shepherds.

What are you going to do, ban any dog over 20 pounds?

185 posted on 04/12/2006 8:32:07 PM PDT by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: PleaseNoMore

http://www.animaladvocates.com/dangerous-dogs/Dog%20attack%20deaths%20and%20maiming82%20to%20feb%202005.pdf

Here's something a little more recent...It doesn't include the carnage from 2005..a very bad year for Piticide.


186 posted on 04/12/2006 8:54:18 PM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Wristpin
Again, generic stereotypical classifications. Note the number of deaths when compared to the number of attacks. Then note the types of "attacks" (child strangled by chain the dog was on, 83 yo attacked by german shepherd/lab mix or a pit bull, not sure which one so let's just add it to the pit bull column)

These "statistics" are laughable. Out of 891 attacks in 23 years, less than 10% of those attacks resulted in death. Also, keep in mind the ratio of pit bulls to german shepherds etc. They outnumber them so the statistics will be higher. Also, the table shows pits averaging about 39 attacks per year. Look at the notes friend. Under german shepherd mix, an elderly person was killed by an overly rowdy greeting in which the victim was knocked down and suffered broken bones but no bites. That was not an attack. The pointer mix joined two pit bulls in attacking someone but didn't bite the victim? The rottie crushing an infant in bed is an attack? This table is BS.

187 posted on 04/12/2006 9:20:01 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Wristpin
These are the "other" dog attacks you don't read about.

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/AllDogsBite.htm

These are the eeeevil pit bulls you never hear about.

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/HeroicPitties/HeroicPitties.htm

Mistaken identity?

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/MistakenIdentity/WrongId.htm

188 posted on 04/12/2006 9:46:35 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Darnright
Google should be the basis for policy decisions...

"babysitter child death"....Results 1 - 10 of about 980,000
Ban all babysitters!!

"accidental gun death"....Results 1 - 10 of about 2,380,000
Ban all guns!!

189 posted on 04/13/2006 3:37:29 AM PDT by kanawa (My dog ate my tagline)
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To: PleaseNoMore

These attacks have real world consequences. Attacks are increasing since activists such as yourself seem hellbent on pushing these fighting animals as pets.

http://heraldnet.com/stories/06/03/27/100loc_a1pitbull001.cfm


Pit bull attack upends life
The victim remains in a Seattle hospital as Mountlake Terrace police investigate the attack, which they say was unprovoked.

By Scott Pesznecker
Herald Writer


Ora Dean Gordly was watching the ground for signs of a dog as she walked through the Mountlake Terrace apartment complex.

She never saw the pit bull lunge from above until it was too late.

Gordly, 61, of Spanaway remains in stable condition at Harborview Medical Center in Seattle more than a week after she was mauled by a pit bull while conducting a survey in Mountlake Terrace.

As a field researcher, Gordly keeps an eye out for dogs, looking for such things as water bowls and squeaky toys.

Since the attack, her life has been turned upside down.

Gordly, who values her freedom and physical fitness, couldn't feed herself Friday night in the wake of her first reconstructive surgery. A longtime friend, Janice Young, had to feed her.

The 2-year-old pit bull tore at Gordly's scalp and ripped chunks of flesh from her arms and legs, Young said. She's on pain medication and must be given daily baths to keep the bites from becoming infected.

"People get older, and regardless of how good of health we're in, we don't mend like we did when we were 25," Young said.

"When you still have got the risk of infection, you don't know if you're going to lose limbs. You just don't know."


190 posted on 04/13/2006 4:27:12 AM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Wristpin

>Attacks are increasing since activists such as yourself seem hellbent on pushing these fighting animals as pets. <

No, attacks are increasing because there are more slimebags in our country who do NOT keep their dogs from running loose, who torment their dogs to make them mean, or simply who buy the dog, then have not the first clue how to raise and train it.

Not one person on this forum who is against breed specific legislation is suggesting the pit bull is the dog breed for everyone. They are active, strong, they must be kept from roaming loose, and they MUST be socialized and trained.

Of course, the same can be said for any large powerful breed.


191 posted on 04/13/2006 4:44:58 AM PDT by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: Wristpin
These attacks have real world consequences.

Attacks by all dogs have real world consequences.
I assume you care about all dog attacks.
What do you propose that will deal with all dog attacks?

192 posted on 04/13/2006 4:48:19 AM PDT by kanawa (My dog ate my tagline)
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To: Wristpin; Darnright
I do not in any way shape or form desire to minimize or trivialize any attack by any breed. An attack, whether maiming or death is involved, is horrific and any animal that attacks a person should be put to death. That said, unless I actually see a photo of the animal that attacks a person or have something indicating there is paperwork identifying the animal as a pit bull, I hesitate to pass judgement with regards to the breed. We all know the MSM/ local media isn't always accurate when reporting these attacks. Many attacks have been reported as being perpetrated by pit bulls when, in fact, later on it was confirmed the dog was not a pit bull. That is a FACT and one easily sourced.
193 posted on 04/13/2006 6:35:23 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: kanawa

Re your tagline...Shouldn't it say my pit bull attacked my tagline? We all know they just sit around waiting to attack something or somebody. /sarc


194 posted on 04/13/2006 6:36:27 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Darnright; Wristpin
The reason for the increased number of attacks is very simple and well documented. There are thousands of unsrupulous back yard breeders, most of whom are totally ignorant of proper breeding and the breed itself, who are producing litter after litter of unwanted, unstable, unhealthy and unsound pit bulls. Dog fighting is lucrative, for a while. Usually more than just dog fighting is involved. Normally, this illegal activity is accompanied by other illegal activities such as theft rings, drug rings etc. These dogs are being mass produced at the peril to the breed and public. Many are inbred which in turn produces the worst kind of dog. While this breed is characteristicly animal aggressive, human aggressiveness is NOT and should not be evident in them. There is a distinct difference in the two forms of agression. Sadly, these animals are often purchased for illegal purposes, not properly trained, ill bred, and as a result, the entire breed suffers.

I am not an "activist" but I will be an advocate for the breed as not every pit bull is inherantly evil and dangerous. Banning the breed will not stop dog attacks nor will it minimize dog attacks in general. Another breed will be selected to "perform" and the cycle will begin all over again. If you could ban sick twisted humans who promote illegal activity and stupid humans who refuse to educate themselves about specific dog breeds, then you would see a drastic reduction in dog attacks of all kinds.

195 posted on 04/13/2006 6:47:32 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: PleaseNoMore

Ironically, Pit Owners despise today's dog fighters, yet the celebrate the dogfighters of yesteryear who nobly developed and selected the breed. A fascinating mass denial.

Daily Pit Bull shooting from yesterday:

City pit bulls attack woman; one dog shot

By PHILIP A. HOLMES pholmes@sungazette.com



City police were forced to shoot one of two aggressive pit bull dogs that attacked a woman Tuesday afternoon as she was walking her dogs in the 1500 block of Memorial Avenue, Capt. Keith Bowers said.

“She went out to walk her dogs and encountered the pit bulls. After she turned back toward her door, she was bitten on her wrist by one of the dogs,” Bowers said of the victim, whose identity and age were not released.

The woman was treated at Williamsport Hospital following the 3:45 p.m. attack, Bowers said. She was “extremely shaken” by the ordeal, he added.

When officers arrived, “the pit bulls were attacking a third dog, which was tied in a yard in the 400 block of block of Stevens Street,” Bowers said.

http://www.sungazette.com/index.asp


196 posted on 04/13/2006 7:08:58 AM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Wristpin
Link doesn't lead to article
Unless this is the "pit bull" in question...

197 posted on 04/13/2006 9:00:50 AM PDT by kanawa (My dog ate my tagline)
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To: kanawa

It's hard to keep all these sweet PitBull stories straight!


http://www.sungazette.com/articles.asp?articleID=3660


198 posted on 04/13/2006 9:09:25 AM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Wristpin
Aren't you dizzy yet??

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http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html#Thedogbiteepidemic  Canine homicides and the dog bite epidemic: do not confuse them

A clear distinction needs to be made between canine homicides (i.e., incidents in which dogs kill people) and the dog bite epidemic. The attention given to the homicides has put the spotlight on pit bulls and Rottweilers. Without a doubt, these two dogs are usually the number one and number two canine killers of humans. (See below, The dogs most likely to kill.) It therefore is correct to single out those two breeds when talking about canine homicides, because those two breeds cause half or more of the deaths. <i>However, an incorrect impression is given when talk shifts casually from the canine homicide issue to the dog bite epidemic.</i> These are separate problems, not to be confused with each other. While killings definitely are news, and while pit bulls and Rottweilers are definitely over-represented when considering human deaths, there must be a line drawn between the homicides, for which two breeds are largely responsible, and the dog bite epidemic, which involves many different breeds. Canine inflicted homicides have remained at the same general level (15 to 20 annually), which cannot be said for the number of dog bites, which is too high (5 million annually) and appears to be growing higher (see statistics, above). Considering the fact that there are 65 million dogs in the United States (see above), the homicide problem is minuscule. This is not to denigrate it, but to point out that eliminating it entirely would save only 15 to 20 people, out of the 5 million who are bitten by dogs. The confusion caused by discussing the homicides and the dog bites in the same breath has its most important ramification in the area of prevention. Some are advocating the banning of pit bulls and possibly other breeds, for reasons that range from their alleged dangerousness to the fact that they are very often treated inhumanely. Those who hear about the homicides often support breed bans. (See Breed Specific Laws, Regulations and Bans.) However, while banning the pit bull might lower the number of human deaths, such a ban would probably not reduce dog bites in any significant manner. After the United Kingdom banned pit bulls in the 1990s, a study showed that the number of dog bites remained the same even though the number of pit bulls had steeply declined. (Study cited in B. Heady and P. Krause, "Health Benefits and Potential Public Savings Due to Pets: Australian and German Survey Results," Australian Social Monitor, Vol.2, No.2, May 1999.) As a practical matter, the current tide of public outrage should be focused on the enactment of measures that would deal effectively with the broader problem, not the more narrow one. It would be unwise to enact all kinds of controls on one breed alone, not necessarily because it would be unfair, but because it would be ineffective. The war against crime isn't a war against just the bank robbers, but against all criminals; the war against drugs isn't a war against just the Colombian drug lords, but all drug lords. For the same reason, the dog bite epidemic must not focus on just one breed and stop there. We should be careful to distinguish between these two problems, because it would be a pity to miss what might be an opportunity to take a real bite out of the dog bite epidemic.

199 posted on 04/13/2006 9:40:27 AM PDT by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: Wristpin
It's hard to keep all these sweet PitBull stories straight!

Just wait until you become concerned about all dog attacks, it'll really make your head spin!

200 posted on 04/13/2006 9:43:46 AM PDT by kanawa (My dog ate my tagline)
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