Posted on 04/07/2006 10:33:20 PM PDT by OakOak
Accuser's Criminal Record. Another web-site said that her license has been suspended 3 times Also.
Joe Cheshire, who represents co-captain Dave Evans, told reporters he is certain the call was made by the SECOND DANCER, whose identity has not yet surfaced publicly. The caller alternatively told a police dispatcher the pair were driving and walking past the house.
My comments: This is something I believed from day one and it can be demonstrated by using the police report (2 min response to first 911 call) and the neighbor's statement.
It's also fishy that police said today that it took the accuser 31 hours to remember ANY details of the incident. That article is here: http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/426021.html
NOTE: There are two separate articles, the N&O link above is the story on the 31 hour time period for details.
They're not going to get convicted of Rape, not even 3.
In North Carolina, that charge is worse than 2nd degree Murder.
1. First Degree Murder
2. Rape
There's just too much, too many times that both dancers lied about this event. It makes them totally unbelievable.
Not just the accuser, the other stripper lied about 6 times that night altogether.
You make good points. The DA will feel compelled to charge them with something.
Durham will demand it
How can he back down now that he's thrown these kids overboard.
To avoid lawsuits.
If he tries them for Rape though (even with DNA) he's going to look foolish during the trial. It will be a comedy of errors. The defense will get the statements from that night
during discovery and they'll point out that the state's own witnesses lied 6 to 8 times that night alone. Not to mention the interviews the accuser has done with the N&O where she says never danced for a group before. When she's
at seasoned veteran and done the circuit of strip clubs in Durham while doing private parties on the side.
At some point, someone's going to say this woman could've gone around to the dirty clothes and took scrapings. She did try to run over a Cop and steal the car of another customer she was dancing for.
I can see a list of guys brought in that she still sleeps with and the Defense putting on evidence on each man of his past treatment of women. To try to show that her bruises could've come from any of these men that she has relations with regularly. Someone dropped her off that night. Wanna bet that individual had sex with her. These women barter in sex, that's their trade. A favor for a favor, and then I'm sure she had some client or clients before Midnight. What drugs did she do there?
I certainly see your point.
They will get a change of venue. After all the pretrial publicity how could they not? The key is to avoid even being charged. That by itself is enough to mess up your employment prospects for life.
How do we know that e-mail isn't fake? It wouldn't be the first time press presented fake evidense. With their motto being "fake but accurate".
OakOak, good work. I am glad to seeing someone is speaking up on behalf of the victims in this case. And of course, the true victims are the forty six innocent white kids on the lacrosse team who have been smeared unmercifully by the Big Liberal Establishment.
Has very little to do with race, more to do with these specific individuals.
Well, I hope justice prevails and truth gets out. And hope the MSM spares the race angle.
So, let's say the evening went off as planned - she's paid, strips, and leaves without incident. Does than break any laws in NC? The reason I ask is that you cannot have an enforceable contract to commit a crime, e.g. "Your honor I'm suing lefty because he promised to drive the get-away car after the bank robbery and he left without me." If there was no enforceable contract then once they voluntarily handed over the money then they were not entitled to get it back.
Well, that was presented out-of-context. It was presented as a Kill fantasy.
Well, when taken with the other e-mails sent and received at roughly the same time. A 19 year old was trying to outbest his buddies in Sarcastic, over-the-top example using extremes to make a point.
The team was upset because the woman arrived bruised, scraped, and extremely intoxicated and danced for 3 minutes and then tried to steal $800.00 from them.
If it was presented in its true context it has a totally different meaning. The DA used the e-mail as reasonable cause to confiscate a bunch of computers and disks.
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Well, YES and NO.
If she strips partially and keeps certain areas covered at all times and doesn't do any food preparation - I think it's entirely Legal.
However, a local guy used that same Escort agency to provide two strippers to a local party (NOT these two strippers) and what happens more commonly with these types of strippers is that they dance and strip, and then go to the ground and using s*x toys perform sex acts on each other. Then they mingle with the party naked and pose for pictures naked.. Drink and beer and leave.
This is entiredly ILLEGAL, however, unfortunately, it's becoming more common for 10-20, 20-24 years olds to hire these strippers for this type of performance. Cameras and Pictures are part of the deal. The local guy on the radio reported he had seen the pictures from the party to verify the story and had also verified the story through several attendees of the party.
The drum beat continues in the Media.. The Raleigh News and Observer ignored the latest revelations and has this article on the front page today:
"Team has swaggered for years"
Note: Swaggering is not an offense in North Carolina
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Food preparation
For that detail, in the context of this discussion, coffee meet keyboard.
Well we did and we dont . Classic case of been there , did that! So I am quite qualified to tell you drinking can really make a mess of your life. Now I sit back and watch all the people who drink make fools of themselves, lose their licenses, or go to jail. Personally I'd rather be with a bunch of drunken hardcore bikers then a bunch of stupid drunken jocks. lol have a nice day.
The woman was under the influence of something that night also. The drinking cannot all be blamed on the team. They have all said from day 1 that she arrived high or drunk. The second 911 call describes her as intoxicated. It took her 31 hours to tell her story, to say what happened that night.
So we can't just trash the team about drinking - the woman on her OWN criminal record has DWIs for driving over twice the legal limit.
That cuts both ways, and makes it even stranger the DA would listen to any of these people.
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Where did she get the bruises/injuries from?
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