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South Park: Cartoon Wars ['South Park' Goes After Mohammad Censorship]
TV Squad ^ | Apr 6th 2006 | Adam Finley

Posted on 04/06/2006 9:16:57 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Posted Apr 6th 2006 9:17AM by Adam Finley

south parkLast night South Park, in a way only South Park can, managed to mix Family Guy and the recent kerfuffle over cartoons involving the Prophet Muhammed into a scathing indictment of both. In the South Park universe, the "offensive Muhammed cartoon" is an episode of Family Guy which the Fox Network decides to censor. Cartman convinces Kyle to join him on his quest to get the episode off the air. It turns out Cartman doesn't care about the offensive episode, he just really, really, hates Family Guy, calling it poorly-written and accusing it of using interchangeable jokes, rather than jokes that actually have something to do with the plot.

I've said it on this blog and elsewhere that Family Guy's humor can be very jarring at times. Whatever plot there is has to be ground to a halt in order to insert as many one-off gags as possible. There's no effort on behalf of the writers to try and weave jokes into the story, jokes simply pop in and out wherever they seem to fit. In that regard, it's not even comparable to shows like South Park and The Simpsons, which take a more substantive approach to their humor and satire, even if South Park appears to delve into the same scatological humor as Family Guy at times.

There's a mistake that a lot of critics make, and that's to judge a show on what you think it should be rather than what it's actually trying to be. Does Family Guy use interchangeable jokes? Yes, it does, and so did the classic Warner Bros. cartoons from which the show takes its aesthetic. Family Guy has never been about depth, it has always been, from the first season on, about getting yucks. It is a CARTOON in every sense of the word, a series of animated drawings packed with as many jokes as possible, plot be damned. Nobody watches Family Guy hoping to hear some profound truth or see some hidden injustice exposed. If they want that kind of experience, they'll watch South Park. Or, if they can wrap their mind around the concept that two cartoons can have vastly different approaches to humor, they might actually be able to watch and enjoy both.

There's a moment toward the end of the episode when Kyle's Big Wheel goes crashing off a mountain, stops, and then bursts into flame. This same joke, one in which something shouldn't catch on fire but does, has been done before by both The Simpsons and Family Guy. In fact, you don't have to watch any of these animated programs for very long before you start to see some of the same gags and pop culture references. When I watched the Big Wheel explode, I thought to myself that despite making every effort to set itself apart from everything in order to have a more accurate satirical vantage point, South Park and its creators don't exist in a vacuum. Many people will tell you that any creative endeavor is just a matter of filtering and arranging ideas which already exist, and this is especially true for comedy writers. If you find something funny, it's likely someone else found it funny as well and has done it before. It's not about who did what first, it's about how you frame the joke and give it your own personal signature. In that regard, I think both Family Guy and South Park do just fine.


TOPICS: Humor; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: cartoons; familyguy; muhammed; southpark
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To: dfwgator

Um, have you read the funny pages, lately? Use of others' characters is acceptable for satire, and "The Family Circus'" characters have appeared in all sorts of depraved ways in other strips. I'm sure its creators did NOT approve.

Recently, "Pearls Before Swine" had a fairly long sequence wherein the kids from "Baby Blues" were babysat by Rat, who had them go on a booze run, during which they crashed the family car which exploded into a fireball.


41 posted on 04/06/2006 11:03:52 AM PDT by dangus
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To: HairOfTheDog

By far - one the BEST episodes ever!!

My husband was laughing so hard I thought I might have to give him CPR!!!


42 posted on 04/06/2006 11:07:16 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: eyespysomething; HairOfTheDog

Uh, still... a LOT of that humor was aimed squarely at Family Guy and was NOT self-referential... Like the constant flashbacks...


43 posted on 04/06/2006 11:07:17 AM PDT by dangus
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To: mainepatsfan

Actually, that episode is an excellent response to the critic!


44 posted on 04/06/2006 11:08:31 AM PDT by dangus
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To: mnehrling

>> Saying bluntly that the problem is they cannot have sex, J*** off, and they have sand in their ass isn't going after Islam? <<

Well, I guess this is one faithful Catholic who's skipping the beach this summer... :^D


45 posted on 04/06/2006 11:09:48 AM PDT by dangus
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To: KosmicKitty

I've thought before, that I might die of funny :~D

It's an alarming notion when you know that and still can't stop laughing :~D


46 posted on 04/06/2006 11:09:55 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: dfwgator
Did they get permission from the Family Guy creators?

I don't think they would need to, as it would fall into the category of "fair use" as satire.

I would love to see "Family Guy" do a "South Park" spoof. Maybe Stewie decides that Cartman has to die.

47 posted on 04/06/2006 11:31:46 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 44-48)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Soutpark has been knockin' 'em out of the park lately!



48 posted on 04/06/2006 11:46:03 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

They're remarkably talented guys aren't they?

They just keep getting better!


49 posted on 04/06/2006 11:47:17 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: Alouette
Maybe Stewie decides that Cartman has to die.

Stewie against Cartman? That's like bringing the canary to the cat. If Cartman can fool Scott Timmermann into eating his own parents, Stewie wouldn't stand a chance. Cartman is too diabolical, even for Football Head.

50 posted on 04/06/2006 11:50:02 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (If Liberals had as much passion for our troops as they did for Tookie, the war would be over...)
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To: AmishDude

I'd say the episode was as much about Americans as it was about Muslims; burying their heads in the sand and such. Stating the obvious, I guess.


51 posted on 04/06/2006 11:51:00 AM PDT by subterfuge ("The GATOR boys are HOT right now."---Joakim Noah)
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To: EveningStar

Thanks for the ping.


52 posted on 04/06/2006 12:11:55 PM PDT by GOPJ ( )
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)

You underestimate Stewie. He is a diabolical genius. He will eliminate Cartman with a weapon of mass destruction that he invented himself.

No one in South Park can withstand Stewie Griffin. Except for Ike Broflovsky.


53 posted on 04/06/2006 12:12:20 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 44-48)
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To: eyespysomething

You mean like they used the Super Adventerers Club instead of Scientology?


54 posted on 04/06/2006 12:20:39 PM PDT by Feiny (I only take the free tour.)
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To: Larry Lucido
"Yea, but I bet they don't have the balls to take on the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh."

Was he the leader of the group that poisoned all the people with Salmonella in Oregon?
55 posted on 04/06/2006 12:25:42 PM PDT by Madison Moose
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
No doubt about it. Not a good move to piss him off.
56 posted on 04/06/2006 12:35:52 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: HairOfTheDog

For some reason, Seth MacFarlane isn't well liked by other animators. Groening's been very uncomplimentary when asked about Family Guy. Matt & Trey, well, you saw their barbs last night. (Stone once said in an interview when people compare South Park to FG, it's like kicking him in the groin.) Even Kevin Smith took a shot at him in the first half dozen episodes of the "Clerks" animated series.


57 posted on 04/06/2006 12:38:52 PM PDT by Starter
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btt


58 posted on 04/06/2006 12:41:25 PM PDT by mnehring (http://abaraxas.blogspot.com)
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To: HairOfTheDog

It honestly wouldn't surprize me if the whole two-part thing didn't happen. I can see Matt & Trey saying there would be a part two and then not doing one.


59 posted on 04/06/2006 1:00:46 PM PDT by Kellykoop
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To: Kellykoop

It amazes me that season-after-season, they continue to make better shows.


60 posted on 04/06/2006 1:02:42 PM PDT by VA_Gentleman (Bush's fault pings are tiresome.)
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