[Ohioan]

That affirmative consent is the whole purpose of marriage. It was not to obtain tax benefits, or employee related benefits, or any of the other silly things people discuss today to trivialize it.

[muir_redwoods]

I can't believe anyone would assert that marriage is only about involuntary sex or reducing the woman to a chattal state for sexual gratification by a selfish male.

If she says no (or doesn't say yes) or clearly indicates it, it means no, regardless of who she is married to.