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American Idol 2006--Live Thread (Part II)
FOX ^ | 3-25-06

Posted on 03/24/2006 9:00:43 PM PST by silent_jonny

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To: Netizen
The other problem is - doesn't it run opposite AI's results show or something?

Yes, but not the results show. It runs on Tuesdays. Because it's on cable, it may or may not run in the same time slot everywhere around the country. I think it runs from 9:00pm to 10:00pm Tuesdays here in the Los Angeles area.

7,541 posted on 04/21/2006 2:58:19 PM PDT by Wolfstar (As long as I have you, though there be rain and darkness too, I'll not complain, I'll see it through)
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To: silent_jonny

http://mediafiends.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=7383&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

IN DEFENSE OF KATHARINE MCPHEE

I’ve seen posts everywhere riding Katharine, saying she is so “full of herself” and thinks she’s it. Well I don’t know Katharine personally but what I see is a girl who is overwhelmed with the change in her life, not pompousness or conceit. You see, it’s not that she actually comes across that way; it’s that she looks like she should. Let me make my case.

By Idolhead Ed

People everywhere have strong opinions about all of the Idols this year and they are the most polarizing ever. You either hate them or love them. Not a whole lot of middle ground.

Before I get to Kat let me first say something about Kellie. If you really think she’s putting on an act or is a dumb hick blonde, it will be easy to find out. Don’t call the press. Just call anyone in Albemarle, North Carolina (Pop. 15,680). Go online and find the Albemarle phone book and call somebody. I’m sure someone in town knows her and I’m also sure not everyone loves her but they will tell you how genuine or not she is.

Unfortunately you can’t do this for Kat. Everyone in L.A. doesn’t know her. As a matter of fact she is such a small fish in such a big pond probably 99% still don’t know who she is. Not the stuff conceit springs from I wouldn’t think. L.A. is where humble pie is baked everyday especially for people who are trying to make in the industry. So instead of looking up someone in L.A., you’ll just have to see if my evidence will help you look at Kat more objectively and if not objectively, at least in a different light.

I just read a few posts on my latest article and figured it was time to take up arms. Although I would love to meet her, as I said earlier, I do not know Katharine, except for what I see on TV as do you posters and writers who think she is quite “Full of herself”. So I am making my assessments based solely on that and if you follow me you may just see things a bit differently. I personally don’t like to see anyone verbally bashed. Generally those doing the bashing have undealt with insecurities of their own.

Let’s start at the beginning:

When Katharine first auditioned she did not nod her head in agreement or approval when the judges showered her with unmitigated praise. What did she do? She began to cry. She cried because she really wasn’t confident that she would make it, much less get the kudos she got. Kellie and Paris also cried but not in front of the judges. This is an important detail because it was a genuine feeling of major accomplishment that instantly hit her. It didn’t matter to her what the judges thought about her emotions running away. She was overcome with joy & surprise, not expectation. Were she “full of herself” as I’ve seen posted, she would have nodded to the judges in her approval. Not the stuff of conceit I say.

When she sang her first song in the top 24, instead of crying she was as giddy as a child at the toy store admitting she was nervous contorting her body every which way to eliviate the nerves. Not the stuff of conceit I say.

When she got her first negative comments the next week from the judges (I might note the last ones she has had) instead of acting incensed (that’s what snotty people do in this situation) she admitted she felt her song choice probably wasn’t the best and said she wasn’t destroyed or anything. The part about being destroyed was Kat reassuring herself, not anyone else. This is a sign of someone who is still not quite sure if they are up to the level they need to be or not. Not the stuff of conceit I say.

When Kat joined the bottom 3, someone “full of herself” would have again looked incensed, not scared to death. And she did look scared to death. After all the praise heaped on her by the judges not only was this unexpected by her, it was by everyone else as well. Some people took her comment “This is a new place for me” as “well what in the world have you stupid Americans have done”. Not hardly. I think she was thinking out loud. And thinking that she would be going home, again had to reassure herself with the statement “whatever God has planned for me”. Not the stuff of conceit I say.

And Queen elimination Wednesday when Ryan asked Katharine if she was nervous, trying to keep from crying, she said “I’m always nervous” in a voice that could only be described as on the edge of freaking out. Not the standard “Oh whatever the voters decide……”gag me with a spoon line. Not the stuff of conceit I say.

And most recently when Simon told her that she made the other contestants look like good amateurs, just go back and look at her expression. It’s like “What?! I don’t think so” along with surprise. Definitely not the stuff of conceit I say.

A side note: While I know Simon’s comment made her mom, dad and fans feel great, it made her feel downright uncomfortable and just like telling Carrie last year in the top 11 she would win and sell more records blah, blah it shouldn’t have been said. He should have said, since he felt that way, she was the best of the night instead. This I think would have made everyone more comfortable and Paula wouldn't have tried shoving her hand down Simon's throat to shut him up. A side note to my side note: He was right about Carrie.

I would suspect most of the comments aimed toward Katharine are more of the envious type than anything else. The little girls I talk to from church love her. They want to be like her just like Carrie. My thinking is the girls who bash her are envious, and the guys who do, feel she’s representation of the girl that wouldn’t pay them any attention. The thoughts from the envious: “It’s bad enough that she can sing her butt off but does she have to be so beautiful too!? Wah! Wah! It’s unfair!” If Katharine looked like Lili Taylor, not Liv Tyler or Taylor Hicks, do you think she would have more support? As sad as it sounds, I think so. People have little control over their looks whether they are as homely as the Idolhead or as beautiful as Katharine. Just like everyone who ever comes on this show, Katharine’s looks have also taken a move up. If you’ll notice in the auditions she looked a little frumpy. I guess she should have gone for the frumpy look to keep down the envy level.

Well I love Kat the way she is and I don’t see any of this snottyness I read about. And until she gives me and her real fans reason to, to us she is simply the best. And get ready envy train; I expect she will again win the night again on Tuesday. What I don’t expect is for her to nod her head in approval and feel that she has won the competition when the judges give their glowing comments because......... “She is not the stuff of conceit I say”.

Is it Tuesday yet?

Idolhead Ed


7,542 posted on 04/21/2006 2:59:52 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

My problem with her is that she isn't very consistent. Her experience in performing musicals in LA, might make her better well known than the author thinks and her nomination as best female vocal in a musical, made me think that she would be more consistent. I think that I why Simon said she ALMOST had a 'moment'.


7,543 posted on 04/21/2006 3:13:17 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: Netizen

How far did John Stevens get? Was Jasmine a vote for the worst? she should have been. I really hope that VFTW doesnt have the numbers... five is still really far for someone bad. Kellie does not deserve that spot for sure. I feel like shes begining to think shes invinsible in the competition.. the rest of the contestants are so talented.. it would be a shame for her to take one of their spots. Have you heard about the recent text messaging kellie scandle?


7,544 posted on 04/21/2006 5:27:04 PM PDT by smarrin15
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To: smarrin15
How far did John Stevens get? Was Jasmine a vote for the worst? she should have been. I really hope that VFTW doesnt have the numbers... five is still really far for someone bad. Kellie does not deserve that spot for sure. I feel like shes begining to think shes invinsible in the competition.. the rest of the contestants are so talented.. it would be a shame for her to take one of their spots. Have you heard about the recent text messaging kellie scandle?

I think Steven was a 5 or 6. I didn't care for Jasmine either. I think she got to 3 which is further than I would have placed her. LaToya was much better in my opinion. It is unfortunate that VFTW might help some less talented contestants get further than more talented ones.

I've heard something about Pickles and text messaging, but I don't recall what it was now.

7,545 posted on 04/21/2006 6:17:30 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: GraniteStateConservative

And I thought I was the only one who noticed that! I'm sure the video was well crafted, and there was some purpose to it.

Have you looked at the "zabasearch" web site? I still can't get my mind wrapped around the fact that the last few times that I saw their "pie chart" it showed Paris last, but the person next to her in the pie chart went home.

The other thing that bothers me is in post #5152, done April 12th @ 9:45pm, there is a pie chart labeled "American Idol Finalists Since April 18 Show". Not exactly sure how this was possible, but again, Paris is last, with Ace next to her, and Ace goes home. Go figure!


7,546 posted on 04/21/2006 6:36:16 PM PDT by Apple Blossom (...around here, city hall is something of a between meals snack.)
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To: misterrob
Is it because you feel that she is a really good singer and consistanly outdoes everyone else on the show?

Kellie is the one I find most consistently engaging as a performer - the whole package (voice, energy, emotion, looks, charm). She's the one who connects with me.

Is she the most technically proficient singer? I doubt it, but everyone seems to think Elliot Yamin is - that's fine, he seems like a great guy and is very talented, but he bores me to tears everytime he goes up there. Catherine is really good too, but something about her just makes me uneasy. Kellie makes me feel relaxed and cheerful. That's worth something. And the crazier the stories about Kellie get, the more I get a kick out of her.

7,547 posted on 04/21/2006 6:59:12 PM PDT by LikeLight
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To: Wyatt's Torch
"Nobody ever lost money underestimating the taste of the American public."

You don't even want to know what book I'm finally reading for the first time and absolutely loving. 'Cause it means you're going to have to check your premises.

7,548 posted on 04/21/2006 7:06:16 PM PDT by LikeLight
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To: Apple Blossom
The other thing that bothers me is in post #5152, done April 12th @ 9:45pm, there is a pie chart labeled "American Idol Finalists Since April 18 Show". Not exactly sure how this was possible, but again, Paris is last, with Ace next to her, and Ace goes home. Go figure!

My guess is that the image file changes, but the file name does not-- so the effect is that the image is refreshed.

7,549 posted on 04/21/2006 7:54:36 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Netizen

"A store in Albermarle, NC (owned by CT Communications) has set up a text messaging phone bank where people can vote for Kellie for free. This company (CT Communications) is a telephone provider in west-central North Carolina. Their cellular stores are RESELLERS for Cingular, like Best Buy and other stores.

Cingular does not control them. They do not control Cingular. The store where the Kellie Pickler voting is taking place is owned by CT Communications and no one else.

There is no conflict of interest, just a retailer using this to drum up business and support their hometown idol."

i also heard they were giving out gifts to ppl that texted for kellie


7,550 posted on 04/21/2006 10:59:14 PM PDT by smarrin15
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To: SirLinksalot
"My thinking is the girls who bash her [Katherine] are envious, and the guys who do, feel she’s representation of the girl that wouldn’t pay them any attention" -- Idolhead Ed

This guy gets it.

7,551 posted on 04/22/2006 7:56:19 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: silent_jonny
Apparently, some fans imagine that Chris and Ace had feelings for one another...


7,552 posted on 04/22/2006 2:21:39 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
This was posted over at tvgasm. Cracked me up! LOL

Why is anyone surprised that Kellie wasn't even bottom three? Our country twice elected a retard President, so why not keep a blonde moron with a nice rack around on American Idol, no matter how bad she sucked? Rod Stewart, what a sellout. If I'm going to listen to this type of music, I'll listen to Tony Bennett sing 'em right, not Rod's second-rate lame ass versions. I only wish Simon got to critique Rod's performance. That would have been classic. Andrea freakin' Bocelli next week? It's like each week the producers reach into my mother's CD collection to select the guest artist. Shakira aside, isn't there any well-known artist under the age of 60 willing to appear on this show? Is it that uncool?

Nice reward to Chris for switching it up. You can bet whatever love song he's singing next week, he'll scream it so hard his pancreas is going to fly out of his mouth onto the stage.

Posted by: JasonR [TypeKey Profile Page] | April 20, 2006 11:00 AM (#33 of 76)


7,553 posted on 04/22/2006 3:22:49 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: grania

I don't hate the child. I think she will keep college boys and NASCAR fans very happy for years to come with her centerfolds in various men's magazines.


7,554 posted on 04/22/2006 3:25:56 PM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Hasta la vista, AI thread.
Jumped the shark.
Too mean, sick and ugly.

Tammy would've been so proud /sarc


7,556 posted on 04/22/2006 3:32:33 PM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Netizen
Our country twice elected a retard President, so why not keep a blonde moron with a nice rack around on American Idol

Yep, this freakin' retard believes he's smarter than Bush. They all do until they get elected and show what bigger retards they are.
7,557 posted on 04/22/2006 3:33:10 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: doodlelady

Don't leave over that. Just report it to the mods as slanderous.

I did.


7,558 posted on 04/22/2006 3:42:20 PM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: SirLinksalot
Our country twice elected a retard President, so why not keep a blonde moron with a nice rack around on American Idol

Sooooo tempting to register and respond with:

Just because he ran with Gore as VP for two terms doesn't make him a retard. Besides he was impeached and is a mere footnote in history!

(lol)

7,559 posted on 04/22/2006 3:54:01 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: Palladin
I don't hate the child. I think she will keep college boys and NASCAR fans very happy for years to come with her centerfolds in various men's magazines.

They said pretty much the same thing on the radio last week. When Paula said she couldn't wait for Pickles acting career to start, the radio guy said 'porn movies'.

7,560 posted on 04/22/2006 4:15:10 PM PDT by Netizen
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